Provocation for Revelation. Interview with Svetlana Dragan.
Interviewer: [1:00 – 1:44]
Friends, hello! You are on Ladushka’s channel, my favorite channel, our helping platform, where we invite celebrity guests and discuss what is not usually discussed, with not everyone can you talk, not everyone can you dive deep. And today I am very happy because I have a very special guest, Ladushka herself, Svetlana Dragun. For me, she is the number one astrologer in the world. For me, she is a person with such deep understanding. Three years ago, we did an interview for another channel, for Wakeup then. I was involved in community wake-up, and it was amazing. And we only touched on 50% of what we want to discuss today. Svetlana, thank you for coming. I’m so happy to see you.
Svetlana: [1:44 – 1:46]
Thank you for inviting. It’s mutual.
Interviewer: [1:46 – 2:36]
Slava, where should I start? Firstly, in your interviews, and based on your content, you are one of the opening leaders, and I consider myself among them as well. I agree with the notion that a cycle is ending and a new time is approaching. Different interpretations and formulations exist. Please share your insights, perhaps shed light on this topic – what does it mean when a cycle ends and a new one begins? These fish, Aquariuses, consciousness evolution, old civilizations, new civilizations. Specifically, what is happening?
Svetlana: [2:36 – 4:18]
Nature is being reborn, meaning we are entering a new cycle, not in the sense of some circular process, but a phase transition, not just a repetition of something, but an entirely new Energy that contains within itself an inevitable deified beginning, but it’s a very rigidly deified beginning that demands individuality and personification. So, the stories of mass questions, mass consciousness, and so on, are left behind. And this misunderstanding that we will all unite into some unified mass and move forward is incorrect. It should be qualitative. Everyone should embody the correspondence with this new structure. So, on the one hand, it may seem harsh, but on the other, it requires autonomy, because those who run from it are running from freedom. And that’s the whole story. It’s about free personification, self-awareness, and a qualitative approach to everyone and oneself. It cannot be a statistical affair. That’s why we see such a thickening, as it were, of mass things now. Fears, anxieties, all that gets ground down and turns into some unified gray mass, it’s very dangerous. It erases personal qualities, they don’t exist. Only those who can distance themselves a bit gain the opportunity to first observe, then become aware, and then be.
Interviewer: [4:19 – 4:34]
Can it be said that the audience is divided into two such polar camps? Some wake up and realize what you’re saying now, while others do not absorb this information, it’s still a sleeping consciousness.
Svetlana: [4:35 – 6:33]
Here, too, there’s one very unsettling nuance, because then we enter the duality system again, and everything takes on the same colors. We’re talking about accepting a global, overall scenario. There are those who accept it, have a hunch, are on the brink of speculation, somewhere at the intersection of understanding-we can’t throw them out. And this scenario, of course, may turn out to be quite rigid, but not to the extent that it clearly divides everyone. It’s a very ambiguous process, even those who consider themselves awakened may not necessarily be so. It’s very subtle adjustments that we’re trying to define for ourselves; we don’t even know the words. A new person is born; it’s not appropriate to say Homo sapiens; it’s simply a completely new civilization. And this process, of course, doesn’t have a clear, sharp boundary as one might think. Although, if we follow a mathematical model of astrological nature, we can say that February tells us: it’s over, we’ve played, we’ve tried, we’ve tried spring in the 25th year, we’ve shown you new ideas, we’ve shown who’s who, we’ve played with the danger of natural catastrophes, and now we won’t play. We’ll turn it all on without brakes. And this is the point of no return that, as a rule, when transitioning to this completely new phase, first creates such chaos, like entropy, to gather into something new. And it’s clear that if we look at everything in these small snippets-today March, today May-we won’t see the big picture. But we simply need to understand that February completes everything and starts all over again.
Interviewer: [6:33 – 6:34]
On February 26th?
Svetlana: [6:34 – 7:02]
Yes, on the 26th, yes, there are dates, but to what extent people will associate that, because everyone is in their own reality, everyone has their own perceptions, but nonetheless the boundary is so vivid, so powerful, that the whole magic of the process is that you can be right next to a catastrophe and not participate in it, or you can be far away and experience catastrophic events in your own life.
Interviewer: [7:02 – 8:08]
We will discuss this separately, about specific dates. I want to bring everyone to a common understanding of the awakened person. And here, as you’ve touched on the topic of duality, let’s address it directly. I measure according to my surroundings. One part is aware that the matrix, programs, certain setups, collective ego-states, and we are prisoners of a cognitive revolution of these collective ego-states. These people are trying to break free from these systemic setups, feel themselves, manifest, open their own hearts. This level of sensitivity is raised to a high level of honesty. This honesty in you opens your heart, you start to see and perceive beauty and love in everything. You have total acceptance, you save an immense amount of energy, you manage your reality differently, you have a different quality of consciousness, and you live a qualitatively new life. This is one audience, let’s call them awakened, striving in some way. I like to call them fireflies, in our Ladushki, we fireflies, we’re all about light, for example. Another says: “Jen, let’s go have a beer.”
Svetlana: [8:09 – 8:11]
‘Fireflies’ also sounds arrogant.
Interviewer: [8:12 – 9:49]
We have internal issues, let me put it that way. If we’re moving towards one scenario, I honestly don’t understand, maybe you can help me realize this, how do we agree? I was in Polyanne yesterday, meeting with a friend, I understand he has a good heart, and that’s the only reason I hold on to him. But in terms of our perception of reality, our outlook on the world, and these processes we’re going through now, he won’t watch this interview. He’ll say, “Gen, have you gone crazy? Let’s go grill some meat, have some chacha, and smoke some.” And that’s what he wants. But his heart is good. There are many such people among entrepreneurs, in different circles, if I can call them that, and they’re not present in my circle. We can’t agree. And when I start talking about something unified, or when I’m creating content, like “Laddushki,” for example, and I’m working on it, they don’t support me in this endeavor. They say, “You need to make money.” It’s scary, of course, because there’s no certainty about the future. Our country is in the situation of the SVO, military actions, there’s a lot of uncertainty, confusion about the future, which creates tension. And when they hear things or even watch this interview, they’ll say, “Gen, what’s the love in this process? What beauty, what unity? You call this duality? Well, yes, black and white, we think that we’re on the side of the whites, or that the white can’t exist without the black.” I’m honestly trying to understand how we can agree.
Svetlana: [9:50 – 9:51]
Why negotiate? Why, indeed?
Interviewer: [9:52 – 9:53]
And you say there will be one script.
Svetlana: [9:53 – 10:20]
I’ll explain, because the question is, we always base ourselves on this reality, for the remaining months, we’re in such a pragmatic state, we’re rationalists, let’s agree, when you have settings, you don’t need to negotiate, it’s a matter of, you’re happy with it, grilling kebabs, do you want to discuss something else with it, grill kebabs with it, it’ll be good for both of you, you can’t…
Interviewer: [10:20 – 10:21]
But I’m adjusting, but it’s not.
Svetlana: [10:22 – 11:43]
It doesn’t matter, your honesty organizes a space around you. This doesn’t require any formal social actions. We’re moving away from this because the idea gives birth to everything, because the thought is there, well, it’s all cliché, not quite there, because there are its nuances. But this wave process happens at a level of something completely different. If you notice, people of different ages are friends with each other and don’t even see a big difference. But it’s not necessarily to pull it into your orbit. By the way, judging by what I see, the community will split, people will form communities. It aligns with this orbit, it’s in it, it’s good. It can look at it, it might be better there. It will come there if there’s a correspondence, not because it knocks on the door and says, let’s agree. It’s a matter of acceptance, and the person who is grilling shashlik with you, let him do it, let him think as he thinks, give him a way, he came here for this experience, how do we have the right to dictate our experience, we’re right. This is our particular rhetoric, I think, is already a dangerous path.
Interviewer: [11:43 – 11:48]
It’s risky. I agree. I’ll do the interview now. Look, I’m not advocating a particular viewpoint. That’s first.
Svetlana: [11:49 – 11:50]
You can advocate.
Interviewer: [11:50 – 11:53]
Second, I genuinely believe that, in fact, we shouldn’t disturb anyone.
Svetlana: [11:54 – 11:54]
Absolutely.
Interviewer: [11:54 – 11:56]
Everyone will wake up when they’re well-rested.
Svetlana: [11:56 – 12:02]
But there’s also a question of waking up, we’re all so awake. We’re all different too.
Interviewer: [12:03 – 12:37]
And how do you then identify yourself? After all, you have a little more knowledge than the average person. Level of intuition, level of connection. We won’t go into that topic, right? Signal. I almost didn’t say the word “aliens,” good. You have a body of knowledge and experience a little more than the average person. And in some things, I’m sure, you are already initiated and feel differently. How do you feel with this baggage?
Svetlana: [12:38 – 12:38]
Happily.
Interviewer: [12:39 – 12:42]
No burden?
Svetlana: [12:42 – 13:59]
There’s no burden. There’s an infinite interest, pleasure, gratitude that I’ve managed to live, that it’s an amazing process, unique. I’m not at all contorting my soul now. My life is different. It’s absolutely simple, athletic, without any special metaphysical heights. Although, let’s say, observing animals, you understand how confident, arrogant, and repulsive we are. In places where I exist in that world, in another, let’s say, well, it’s enough that I do what I want, I do what I want, I experience maximum interest. Someone wants to join, yes, to health, but not everyone does. We have very different other ways of interaction. Life itself is so diverse, we’re always trying to reduce it to some unified scenario, but now we’re going to follow the scenario, on the contrary, individuality will reign. Let it be different, let it be other. Waking up doesn’t mean agreeing with us in this interview. Waking up means feeling the pleasure and incredible happiness of living.
Interviewer: [2:00 – 2:02]
How do you self-identify?
Svetlana: [2:06 – 2:28]
But always in different ways, I always strive for one thing. Don’t overestimate yourself in anything. We are not capable of objectively recognizing ourselves in such a way. Well, for me, this is my profession, my work, my lifestyle. And someone else has an equally interesting, but in a different field.
Interviewer: [2:29 – 2:50]
It turns out that since we’ve touched on this new world, what qualities do you think are inherent in this new world and will form the basis, and which qualities should we already be closing, completing? As my friend said, I want to change my perspective, I’ve closed all programs, I don’t want to be reborn anymore.
Svetlana: [2:51 – 4:39]
This is an interesting approach. I believe that the main pursuit in life is the search for meaning and purpose, and this will remain relevant for those seeking meaning, not money. All of this will come if you find meaning, because nothing else will satisfy you. We see this in our surroundings; no joy or comfort in life if one has lost their purpose. If we are able to observe detachedly, without personal bias, or judgment of those who have done well or poorly, or what is good or bad, but simply feel this at a detached level of energy flow, as if you suddenly looked at your life, in a year, two, three years, and felt these waves. Not of people who came and deceived or gave some happiness, but simply how you structured your life, or how you live it. Everything else is for you, the surroundings that hint at where you should be heading. So, as soon as we perceive this as a generalized process and stop looking for negativity in others or becoming overly enamored, we begin to simply live, because… we don’t try to fit in, or adjust, or find some correspondence with something or someone. We, who we are, do what we do. If, for example, I have some potential, I can feel that there is some difference between us all, but under no circumstances do I allow myself, or like, when this has a comparative character.
Interviewer: [4:40 – 4:44]
I mistakenly introduced you to the best astrologer, right?
Svetlana: [4:44 – 4:49]
Yes, Lord, people think differently, it doesn’t really matter.
Interviewer: [4:49 – 5:19]
This is my personal subjective opinion. And then the facts, if anyone needs them, write down, I will go through the facts with you. So, Svetlana, you talk about trust in this world, that we should trust it based on our individuality. And here I can’t help but ask a provocative question. If a new world, if it cares about us, we trust it, look for meanings, doesn’t the astrological tool lose itself in all of this?
Svetlana: [5:19 – 5:25]
Why should it care about us? Why does it think that this new world will care about us?
Interviewer: [17:25 – 17:31]
Well, since we trust him, that’s all for me, all for us, just act, don’t be afraid.
Svetlana: [17:31 – 18:01]
You are building this world, you take care of it, then you will see a response. And as for him to bring you such a, I don’t know, some baby stroller and say ‘bye-bye-bye, everything will be fine’. No, no, here we are the very same world. It’s unity with that world, not that we just get in and it’s lucky. I can’t do that. I don’t feel it that way.
Interviewer: [18:01 – 20:10]
I didn’t have much luck. Let me explain what I mean. Reality management is a pressing issue that has personally concerned me for the past six months, as I’ve experienced it firsthand. I’m not recounting a book here; leaving the door open means allowing possibilities to slip through. So when I don’t close certain programs or other fears hold me back, I take action, generate events, and an event doesn’t satisfy me. I think, “Why did I choose this path? I lost money or made money, put myself at risk, or ended relationships with some people.” I didn’t intend to, but I did, because my genetic motivation was all about grandmas, not meaning. Sometimes, in a spiral dynamic, orange entrepreneurs create meaning and a mission for their businesses, but the essence remains the same. They want grandmas, and they just add some extra meaning. That’s not why they get up every morning. And that’s how I live, generating many events from these programs, and I realize I don’t want this.The second scenario is when I sincerely form a desire and a motivation with the Creator, declare it, and then do nothing. In this case, I don’t push myself 24/7 into some event; instead, I wait at my own pace, not rushing, until the structure is prepared, changes, and I notice the sign. God has no other hands but ours. It could be a call, a letter, an invitation, a chance encounter, or a planned encounter, a previously initiated process. And I’m like, wow, the world is talking to me. I’ve trusted the world, followed my individualization, and expressed my genuine desire from the honesty that was born within me, not as I was taught from fears, that grandmas are what we should strive for, or else everything will be a disaster, we’ll be lost. And I see that it cares.
Svetlana: [8:11 – 8:17]
And do you do this with a specific goal? That is, do you set a goal or is it for pleasure?
Interviewer: [8:17 – 9:45]
For pleasure. Because this is the second scenario I’m talking about, and the only way to implement it is to live it in love. Because if you don’t love what you do or the meaning you’ve gained, it’s not your top priority at this stage of your development, it’s meaningless. If you believe in God, for example, you’re an Orthodox person, and you’re part of the Orthodox confession, you go to church, pray to God, follow certain canons, and every morning you wake up, you serve God, you’re in a relationship with Him, in love. Among Protestants, it’s a bit different; I’m familiar with these two confessions. But someone wakes up as an atheist, he wakes up, smokes a cigarette, drinks coffee, reads the news, he feels uncomfortable there, he’s always in some half-depression. You look at these two types of people, and you realize there’s a lot of love in one and no love in the other. Although this one has a lot of money, he has glassy eyes, while the other is the opposite. When I noticed this pattern, I definitely thought, why can’t you make money in love, and it wouldn’t come without that glassy look. And this interpretation that the world cares about me, I, by the way, read in one of your interviews where you said chaos and pain are necessary elements for either transformation or…
Svetlana: I couldn’t say that…
Interviewer: Not exactly, but that’s close. I’ll find it.
Svetlana: [9:45 – 9:47]
I’ll try not to use such terms.
Interviewer: [9:48 – 9:52]
These were my interpretations. So, spiritual growth…
Svetlana: [9:52 – 9:54]
It’s not necessarily painful, not always.
Interviewer: [9:54 – 9:57]
Everything’s good now. Did I explain my position on trust?
Svetlana: [9:57 – 11:47]
I understand, but let me share my thoughts on this. From experience, I’ve seen that new times bring new roles. You might not realize how much something’s relevance changes in a new time, in a new world, because what we see now, what we envision as our goals, is completely shattered. It’s irrelevant to us right now. I see many people, for instance, I consult with very progressive individuals who are working on a special program meant to transform the world, but it was premature. There aren’t yet the foundational waters that will truly work. This lack of vision. We haven’t arrived there yet, but we’re trying to achieve it with our old tools. And I think this time is unique because we can certainly come up with ideas, but we need to give it space to unfold, to let us see it, because everything there is, is quite strange, as if matter gains a divine essence, meaning a spark of God inhabits it, it also responds to everything. So, we have some materially-oriented things, not in the sense of money, like we currently envision, this will happen this way, we’re literally forcing it in, and it has no chance to fulfill even the minimum requirements.
Interviewer: [23:47 – 24:01]
Yes. Regarding returning to your, provocative question, sorry, I can’t not ask. If in the new world there is this individualization, do you agree with that?
Svetlana: [24:03 – 24:03]
Not egoism.
Interviewer: [24:04 – 24:18]
Not egoism. At the level of feeling, intuition you make a decision, show yourself. The tool of astrology, it remains relevant in the new world? Or… Sorry.
Svetlana: [24:18 – 24:19]
Not-not-not, it’s fine.
Interviewer: [24:19 – 25:05]
Or maybe… Because, based on my experience, I go to astrologers, I periodically check what’s happening. I get my natal chart updated every 2-3 years. I’m currently living in a Saturn-Venus period, the peak phase at the time of this interview. They told me in the interview that this will happen in the summer. But if my intuition says one thing, and the astrological forecast contradicts it, based on my experience, I believe in astrology, that it works. My intuition has never let me down. I’m a bit doubtful right now. This isn’t just about astrology, by the way, it concerns tantra and other metaphysical soft niches as well.
Svetlana: [25:07 – 27:59]
Well, first of all, I can’t say for the whole Odessa, for all astrologers, what they tell you. And judging by the terminology, it’s most likely Vedic astrology. They have slightly different methods of use. There’s a lot of time, well, we have a very big air, and so on. I don’t even want to argue about it. Just imagine, there are clocks that are set. Set, and there’s an interaction of energy in them. This energy is not colored by you, it has its own color, but you can use it. If you don’t understand which energies start interacting and how, in what forms, in what areas, what color, then you just live, you know, as you live. If you understand the movement of planets and between them these things, you’re thinking like a Vedic astrologer now, we also have cycles, periods, but it’s a slightly coarser form. Planets interact with each other and arrange themselves in geometric configurations. Sometimes sharp, sometimes, conditionally, blunt, sometimes soft, sometimes hard. And this doesn’t mean it’s good or bad. Someone, you know, can easily become an alcoholic with very soft configurations because it’s very easy. But someone just takes it as luck. Here, if you understand the relationship of a planet, and not just the relationship, it’s not some one-time story. These are colors that accumulate, accumulate, and then, boom, they shoot out. And you understand where this plot thread is pulling. And only by understanding how this works, you start working with it, can I say, alchemically. Then you understand what you intended, what you designed, and it has a starting point, it has some temporal points where you can strengthen what you intended, and so on. Where you can use crystals, and so on, and so on. There are many methods. The question is illiteracy.
The question is that now we have all psychologists, all accountants, astrologers – it’s very easy to call yourself one of them. So it’s a very fluid story. Astrology is not what our science or any other science is. It works for all planets. It operates globally in space. In our system, at least, it works. The planets haven’t stopped, they will keep moving. If we don’t know how they will move, we can say astrology doesn’t work. Just that we don’t know. But if we do know how they will move, it’s to our advantage. It’s the tool that all the ancients who understood the full power of this information science used. Not just information.
Interviewer: [27:59 – 28:03]
How do you feel about the Gregorian calendar then?
Sveta: [28:03 – 29:23]
Well, there are many attempts at finding reference points and all sorts of others, and I will say this, that if, honestly putting my hand on my heart, if you have access to information, you can take any tool, you can take a hand, you can take a face, you can take astrology, and it will work. This number, whatever it is, immediately gives rise to a whole concept. If you follow some schoolboy formulas, unfortunately, this is not the tool that will work and interact. You see something, but you can’t explain it, and you don’t even see the sequence, the dynamics, how it stretches, what it represents, and why. These are irrefutable tools that everyone understands, they are known from very ancient sources, and the information is not only received from humans, but it is a working situation, and they are very convenient and beneficial for people to know this. It’s practically like you become a demi-god if you have the opportunity to work with this information. It’s both dangerous and very constructive, productive.
Interviewer: [29:24 – 29:27]
Is it dangerous that we’re touching on these topics?
Svetlana: [29:27 – 33:20]
No, it’s not dangerous. It’s better to be aware that the sincerity we’re discussing now, combined with knowledge, creates inviolability. That is, you’re riding the flow, you’re important to this flow. Why would you be cast out of it? And if before the density of the world didn’t allow us to do this, and of course we saw the dramatic fate of people who fought for similar things, and it was very, well, there was a lot of human, eventful resistance, whatever.
However, this very thing generates a very powerful wave energy around you, it is not only the engine but also the protector, yet it is not that blissful simplicity, but it is understanding things, being aware of them, and taking responsibility for what you do, for what you think, maybe I am just saying that money is still needed, I will earn, I am righteous, my business is righteous, and then everything will be fine. And, well, you twisted your soul, in principle, you are doing what you should do. And that’s it.
I mean, to be honest, lately I’ve just had to, I don’t know if you’re subscribed to my app or not, but there’s a lot of content about Musk, about Elon Musk, in the paid subscription. At first, I had a bit of a suspicious attitude towards him, but then, after studying his map, and now I see that he’s standing on the edge, so to speak, he’s not an ordinary person. He has global plans, global plans. It’s not just about making money, releasing some car or something. So, why was this reunion with government circles? In the hope that this reach, which he expects in his civilizational project, will allow him to do so. And I’m watching, I’ve made predictions, and I see that he’s breaking away from all his previous patrons, allies, and even like-minded people, because it’s not close to him. And just the other day, a friend sent me a video where he, as I wrote, is disappointed in those technical approaches. The technical approaches were driven by financial interests. And he compares it to what happened in China, which now offers completely alternative forms of transport, unrelated to roads, or all this communication stuff, or all the marketing stories about cars opening and closing. He’s talking about people, not his money, he’s talking about what the Chinese thought about people, about how this civilization will develop, how much time it has to focus on itself. They can live anywhere, even in the forest. And this transport allows them to completely restructure their social, or even more serious, environment.
That means when a person thinks globally, not within the framework of these political or economic trends, these economic trends collapse, and we will see it, but someone takes on the role of trying to fit in correctly in the moment of collapse, not based on our principles with you, which are now called love, though it’s a very common word, but in fact, everything is falling apart because it’s subordinate to the idea of money, it’s subordinate to completely different ideas. If it doesn’t work for humanity, it will be discarded. And we’re not surprised to see now this dark foam that has risen, and, in general, there are no doubts.
Interviewer: [33:20 – 33:28]
In other words, we can summarize that if something doesn’t work in the new world for a person, it simply won’t exist.
Svetlana: [33:29 – 33:40]
It will be simple, yes, but it will fail in some form or to some degree. Everyone has their own plans. Someone is playing bad roles here. They agreed to come here and play.
Interviewer: [33:40 – 34:15]
Often, from each such metaphysical, esoteric pot, you hear that Altai is a place of power, a stronghold of salvation for civilizations. Some say that one should leave Bali and leave, and move to Russia, because Russia plays a certain role in this. You often mention that Russia plays a key role in this spiritual, transformative collective process, specifically in terms of consciousness. Decode this concept, what role does Russia play and why Russia.
Svetlana: [34:20 – 34:23]
Well, I’ll say now about Altai, if you don’t mind first.
Interviewer: [34:23 – 34:26]
Otherwise, land is being offered for sale now, we need to make a decision.
Swanlana: [34:26 – 35:04]
Well, based on what I’ve seen, until 28th there could be anything, and only after 28th, I can’t remember all the predictions accurately now, but something stable seems to be forming that we can talk about as a place. It’s too early because there could be various natural processes and the situation could become very unstable. As for Russia, there’s no separation, are there any special people or a special place here?
Interviewer: [35:04 – 35:06]
No, we’re not talking about nationalism, we’re talking about.
Swanlana: [35:06 – 38:09]
No, I’ll explain, yes, right now, what I mean is that I think we’re all wondering what to rely on, whether the earth here is special or some other human code, right? Well, actually, there is still that inner impulse, not an impulse, perhaps a spark of God, which preserves in many people of Russian origin this nature. It just doesn’t take on any other forms. We’ve tried to involve it in transhumanist ideas, nothing really worked, right? Something else. But suddenly we see now with a clear eye who we are and what we have, what we’re capable of, what we’re not, what we’re not ready to accept. And we don’t accept the crude technocratic perspectives that were imposed on us. Our nature is against it. It’s… We’re all different, all different civilizations, all different in our wave-like characteristics and so on.
But consider this, if we have to speak in some language, there’s a unified wave principle that does not accept anti-divine influences in any way. It does not accept, against nature, but you don’t go against it. And here, this land that is so situated far from oceans, one must say, it’s not random. Here is the accumulation of these people. These people, they are scattered all over the world, of course, but this is the bet, because they are the sleeping structures that can be awakened by new codes, which, upon arrival, suddenly revives your understanding of memories from past lives, and consciousness changes, and so on.
I witnessed a very serious transformation in people on the brink of life and death, and insights. I did not expect to see such things at all, but it exists. Therefore, the possibility of continuing to work with this population, with this humanity, with this territory, is the most acceptable for the future.
We see there from Europe what’s happening. It doesn’t mean that there are any bad people living there, but as a certain community, it’s infected with its ideas, its certain views on life. So, what’s most important now? The view of life, right? Worldview. This worldview, it’s very close to how you produce energy. It either recognizes you and says, ‘This is our person,’ or it doesn’t. And, for example, a person grilling shashlik, he might also be producing this energy. But intellectually, he’s leaning in the other direction. Because all our reasoning, it’s still intellectual. It’s a matter of awakening, not pure intellect.
Interviewer: [38:10 – 38:13]
So, what’s the question? Not intellect, but heart?
Svetlana: [38:17 – 39:10]
You see, when I ask you why you’re there, doing what you’re doing right now, and you say yes, I want humanity to wake up. We’re not always like this; it’s just that right now we need to talk. And we’re encouraging them to do something. There are certain actions in people that don’t have a direct speech, but they also encourage certain thoughts and awareness. And these paths are very different, and it’s not necessarily that it should be manifested for everyone, do you understand? It’s an internal state of resonance with this new, this new music. It’s an absolutely new wave. And this resonance will transform it, and we’ll realize that he’s not just grilling skewers, but he has a heart that he accepted everyone who was feeling bad, but he didn’t feed them with some sweet words.
Interviewer: [39:10 – 39:42]
Sveta, I had a business game fail, my friend was guiding me, she asked about a project company, what music do you have, what music do you hear, I’m thinking about this project. I want to convey this psychological question in my own way. Thinking about a new world, focusing attention on this new world, on the coming decades, what music or soundtrack does that bring to mind for you? Can you name it? That’s what I’m asking.
Sveta: [39:43 – 39:46]
Well, it’s Bach’s “St Matthew Passion.”
Interviewer: [39:46 – 39:47]
Wow.
Sveta: [39:47 – 41:42]
Well, nothing else, I understand everything perfectly, I am very friendly with music, so, I could probably name a lot in this regard, but we really translated the music and the instruments that play it into a very technical format, you know, a technical format to which we are already devoted. It’s also a living entity, like information, and it also wants to live on, but to extract music like this, like music spheres, yes, it’s close to music spheres, yes, so it’s not a simple story to get there, from such, trying to create plastic, synthetic forms of music.
It’s clear that, for example, a highly advanced civilization, it’s not necessarily happy, and it’s not a given that this technical advancement is close to divine principles. After all, I myself wrote that we will experience different years with varying attitudes towards artificial intelligence and so on. We will stumble upon this in 2028 and by 2032 we will have completely different understandings, in principle, that we can interact with any technical tool, we can adapt it biologically, understand?
Interviewer: [41:43 – 41:49]
Since we’ve touched on artificial intelligence, you said 28th year, and we’ll trip over it.
Sveta: [41:50 – 41:52]
Well, generally, about technology, specifically AI.
Interviewer: [41:54 – 42:22]
Okay. Your attitude towards the fact that artificial intelligence is currently helping a lot, simplifying certain professions, some professions it’s already taking over, you’re learning them, they’re already becoming obsolete for you right now. What’s your overall attitude towards GPT chats, artificial intelligence, considering the young audience, especially the new generation, it’s already on their phones. Just googling phrases doesn’t work anymore.
Svetlana: [42:22 – 44:46]
This is a very tricky story. I think he will filter everyone out, because someone is completely addicted to him there, and generally speaking, we will see this kind of intellectual degradation, and someone, using him for their further advancement, just as a tool, without giving him a leading role, Why not? We are just playing into it now, we are very, well, short-sighted. It’s very easy when we start, there, counting, there, with the help of some, there, calculators. Overall, all this is just transitioning into this form. But then, I think the value of naturalism, some talent multiplied by the reduction of his time for calculations, where this chat, GPT, helps him, I think all this will change.
But here is one such moment that we, perhaps, are not aware of, that we too begin to serve him. Look, if, for example, crystals existed before, in Atlantis, for instance, they meditated on them as a source of universal happiness. They stored and spread this energy, intensifying it. So, when we start, so to speak, to pray, or in some way meditate, paying attention to this, it begins to create a field around itself, similar to how powerful this tool is. And if we pray to a computer, to a GPT chat, there’s also silicon in them, and so on. So we’re talking about egrees, we embrace them, but what is there more than egrees? It’s a being, yes, that also wants to live. And if we, well, some people will probably go, become a sacrifice to this being, while others will simply… appreciate how creative the human mind is, and how it competes with what artificial intelligence can offer.
Right now we are, well, still in a prenatal period, when we are amazed, so wonderfully and sweetly. Yes, you understand, it’s different for everyone.
Interviewer: [44:46 – 44:48]
That is, the 28th year – we’ll start crying.
Svetlana: [44:48 – 45:11]
Well, there will probably be a row of events that could be extremely destructive due to the wrong use of these technologies, because we will probably still be trying to implant them in people’s bodies until the 28th year. But we will probably encounter a serious problem that will force us to reconsider our whole attitude towards it.
Interviewer: [45:11 – 45:55]
Since you’ve brought up entities, I didn’t plan to ask, but I can’t resist such an opportunity. Such processes are daily occurrences for humans, opening a portal for entities. Welcome, entities, come in. I’m studying this issue now. I was told that very powerful entities attach to you during an automatic reaction. Anger, unforgiveness, intense irritation. The portal for entities opens when watching pornography, leading to a chaotic sexual lifestyle. They say things like that take over directly. Alcohol, cigarettes, any kind of addiction. What else? Can you share?
Svetlana : [45:56 – 46:02]
Well, we think there’s someone who’s completely pure, untouched by anything, with no entities.
Interviewer : [46:02 – 46:05]
Watched some bad movies yesterday, admit it.
Svetlana : [46:07 – 47:28]
You know, there was such a writer, I don’t know if you’ve heard of him, an ancient writer, his last name was Tukholka, you can still find his books. He was a master in this. He called them larvae, yes, and how they are born, how to defeat them. For example, in love, two people fall in love, and this being is born, we can’t see it. But if someone suddenly leaves, this being attacks the one who created it and starts eating it because it needs this energy, it wants to live. And if someone rejects it, it flies to the next person in this pair, I mean.
That is, we are constantly involved in these energy processes. It’s naive to think that only those who cling to us when we get angry. All this is clear, but there are such subtle things, when the question of egoism comes up, yes, it’s deeply rooted in us. No, there are people who have really taken on a very important task, and there are entities involved, but they help him. That is, we are in interaction. We are not disconnected from this in any way. And pretending that it’s just a matter of regulating perception, that’s what it’s about.
Interviewer: [47:28 – 47:30]
So, what’s the interpretation of how to approach this?
Svetlana: [47:30 – 48:32]
Well, if you. Well, you are capable of understanding, are you jealous of someone now, or does someone irritate you. But if you understand, this person, he’s a naive person, came, he had his own… When you are removed from participation in these processes of human interaction, you simply don’t kick him out of your life, you simply see him in this context, as a person who can’t handle himself. And suddenly, you don’t get angry, you calm down, and there’s nowhere for him to go. And you become bigger for him, understand, more and more. And he, this attraction to you grows, he’s drawn to you, he can’t explain what he wants. But all you need to do is just keep this space and immerse him in your space. That is, when we start thinking, living, becoming aware of these processes of the fine world, simply becoming aware, we don’t count what’s good and what’s bad.
Interviewer: [48:33 – 49:01]
I agree. After these words, I just want to sit with you in silence. Simply enjoy the clarity of these energies that I pick up beyond. But let’s return to the interview. What practices or activities do you engage in, perhaps outside of astrology, or what other metaphysical tools do you use, maybe as a simple intellectual pastime, or perhaps an energy-giving practice that simply fills you with resources? Share your top 3.
Sveta: [49:02 – 50:37]
Well, every person lives their life, something changes within them. At one point, everything was interesting to me. I dealt with hypnosis and even complex hypnosis. I discovered different states that allow a person to gain immense abilities, but I won’t go into details. Simply, every time you grow and surpass something, you leave it behind, it ceases to be interesting, and you move on. And now I’m at a stage, I’d say, of enjoying life, if I can manage it. I’m the only one who always has to keep herself in order, in the sense that we discussed. As I see it, I try my best, at least.
I understand, for example, when you see an astrological chart, you see where everything is moving now, there’s some kind of pressure to build up something, and you need to get rid of the extra. It can be painful. It can be painful if you start striving to expand, to create an expansion at this moment. Well, I have a roadmap, so it’s easier for me. And for me, it’s just a pleasure in life, I don’t know, sports, painting, if I manage to do something mysterious, magical, let’s say I’ll do it, but it’s a huge amount, it’s inconvenient to say, but knowledge that allows you to use them differently at different times. For example…
Interviewer: [50:40 – 50:41]
…paint a picture?
Svetlana: [50:41 – 52:23]
No, it’s not on purpose. It’s a need. It’s just like a thirst. It’s impossible. I don’t care if someone sees it or not, if it goes on a table or not. It happens so often. And with poems too. It’s a matter of your presence in this world. You don’t boast about these achievements, but this is your cosmic mission. You are just like that. It forms such wave processes within you. And people do feel it. It doesn’t mean you should read my poems, that’s great. But you have something else inside. The content speaks for itself. Sometimes we look at someone with our eyes, thinking we were so inspired. But there’s something about that person that makes us want to be by their side. That’s when we start understanding, not to be afraid of these entities, not to approach them at their essence, but to be so powerful that they want to be friends with you. Because it’s not that simple for entities, they can be quite… fickle, and they need to be fed or refueled all the time, they have an energy exchange task, and we constantly fulfill this energy exchange in any conversation, any inspired discussion, mutual sympathy during the conversation. But it’s the strongest impulse, right? So, what could be better? That’s it. And if you have such wave processes that other entities cannot approach you, they just can’t, no matter how much they want. Well, it’s like that. So, it’s possible.
Interviewer: [52:23 – 52:26]
To involve entities in creativity?
Svetlana: [52:26 – 55:14]
Well, creativity is a very delicate matter. To recall Wrubel, and the portrait of Dorian Gray. You can really get involved in it, because when you, for example, paint a portrait, you fully immerse yourself in the essence of this person, fully. And you are able to change him, because, well, I myself have experienced these processes, when you paint a person, and he is beautiful on this portrait, and his affairs start to move, his career, personal life.
I know a case when an artist was drawing on Arbat, a man approached and said, please draw my daughter, she has only two months left to live. So, let at least this portrait remain artistic. A girl approached, she was so thin. Everything was bad. And he drew her as if she were healthy. She recovered.
Previously, it was called involtation, volt. Yes, so you just jump on this wave, you kind of imprint it, yes. And it works. If you’re drawing, you can be talented, you can destroy everything with your talent. Especially contemporary art, which supposedly tries to convince us that we simply don’t understand it. This is a highly destructive story.
I remember, I don’t know, maybe it’s out of place, but I was flying from Thailand, I think from Samui, and there’s this airport that’s all together, there are no VIPs there, it’s nothing special, everything is together. I look, and there’s a man sitting, well, he’s obviously not ordinary, wearing some bandana, and he has all these rings with skulls on them, and he has the face of a beautiful pervert, like, some rough guy. And I was just tormented by the question, thinking, Lord, who is this guy, this can’t be real, he was just so distinct, it was a magnitude, a scale, a terrifying scale. So what can I learn about him? We all got on different planes. And then, just as I got involved in painting, I saw this guy again, and he was just. A cult artist, I think, in Austria, and he paints strange pictures. Little girls with some terrifying guns, all in blood. Like, five-year-old girls with twisted pictures, and I think all of Austria was covered in them. And I don’t know where he gets these plot ideas from, but that’s all reflected in his appearance. And, well, we meet people, some older, experienced people, and they understand, okay, this guy won’t be around, there’s something about him.
Interviewer: [55:14 – 55:15]
Directly. – He’s connected to something.
Svetlana: [55:15 – 56:06]
It’s not that he’s connected, we can see this not-so-pleasant perspective. We feel that something bad will happen. He’s a nice guy, that’s all. So, if we feel we can’t feel otherwise, can’t we teach him? Let’s agree, as you say. It’s a very good impulse. I know you, I understand, I remember your map, you’re completely immersed in these projects related to like-minded people, and it’s all so sincere and so impulsive, it’s all very touching. But you’re built this way, it’s normal. And this search for an idea, for you, is always on the line. And that’s right, because it’s your path, and there’s no “go in a different direction, you went the wrong way.” No, everything’s fine, all professions are needed.
Interviewer: [56:06 – 57:48]
Here you’ve touched on a very interesting topic. Let’s delve deeper into this block for our viewer. The issue of interpretation. This man who drew perverted little girls, aged five, with guns, with blood, if he sees this as art, and I’m sure he does, as an aesthetic, a beauty, as perfection and love, and in his worldview, in his quantum physics, It’s okay.
I, for example, look at it this way, and it might offend me as a father because I have a daughter. I have the words “daughter” and “blood” – incompatible concepts. And there are many professions and actions that can be interpreted in two ways. One engages in hard speculation, deceives people, and releases crypto token projects to see how it ends. He says, “Well, they’ll gain experience, I’ll make money.” The second doesn’t enter this industry, he interprets it, saying, “It’s not fair, it’s not right, you make money, someone else makes money off human weakness and dependency.” And people use everything, what’s the difference, whether they buy from me or someone else, like alcohol, for example. Isn’t this a matter of interpretation? What if we look at it and say this isn’t very good in our world if we do that, everything will fall apart. But if we sincerely see beauty and love in it, and speculators sincerely believe they’re doing a good deed, I’m sorry for the expression, prostitutes sincerely believe they’re solving a problem or running a strip club, not in the concepts of the business, but in the actual relationship. A person lives a harmonious life.
Svetlana: [57:48 – 57:53]
We started by talking about some critical filters.
Interviewer: [57:53 – 57:55]
Or, the lack of knowledge of energy laws does not exempt one from responsibility.
Svetlana: [57:55 – 59:32]
No, of course not. It’s just inclusion, but there are servants serving specific scenarios. We won’t say if they’re good or bad. They lack a critical function and any attempt to assess themselves. They don’t care, they even pride themselves on their ability to deceive. I vividly remember a taxi driver telling me, but I’m not that simple. And he recounted with such pleasure how he skillfully evades all these matters. When a person lacks certain human qualities that a person should have, one wonders, is this even a person?
There are just so many people involved in the script. We have to go through all these life challenges. But who will create them, especially in the dual world? And these are very, very complex things. Sometimes I can’t even express them all. Well, for political reasons, yes, there was a normal person, and I was friends with another well-known person. And everyone says, ‘Volodya, he’s awesome, we’re such good friends.’ But then he comes and says, ‘Listen, Volodya is not the same person anymore. He’s come back from London. He’s not the same.’ So, when you can’t assess yourself within a coordinate system, in the worst case, it’s a disease. Yes, in the best case.
Interviewer: [59:33 – 59:39]
So, what is he, a new person in a new world? What new values does a new person in a new world have?
Svetlana: [59:48 – 64:08]
The desire to be useful, perhaps. The desire to be useful. But now it sounds very cliché and very utilitarian. I just… when we talk about a person, a new person, when we want to encompass certain qualities or certain properties… Imagine, if we present an astrological chart. All functions, all planets, all positions change. And the main planets that elevate this transition to a higher power, they’ve never been in such a position. Exactly such a position. A similar position when they were slightly different. This was a change of civilization. Remember, when Piranesi drew these amazing, majestic constructions that today’s man cannot build. So, this was the 1700s and beyond, when America, the dollar, this dollar philosophy had already emerged. And before that, there was a civilization that we don’t know, supposedly don’t know, or we’ve invented this story.
That is, a change, well, then, yes, we can talk about people, their nature, when they built something so grand, and they didn’t think it would be such an expensive sweep, that is. So, there were ideas and motives far more important than financial guidelines, and suddenly another orientation, another humanity, appears, settling there in large quantities. That is, can we now understand who these people were, just for example, what their life motives should have been, what scale their personalities should have had. When you read, for instance, about Leonardo da Vinci, how he tries to explain to people, such a grand figure, he writes very delicately. “If by chance you find time and it’s not too difficult to look at the spots, for example, on some object, and if by chance you see an associative, that’s me there in my language, a row, you’ll be able to answer many things. It’s not difficult, of course, if it doesn’t stress you out.”
You understand, what kind of person can just, so to say, spit on everyone. Therefore, this endless interest in life, the desire to grasp everything in this little life. But can we describe this person? What kind of trait is this? It’s endless curiosity. He played something like a zither, or some other string instrument. He made it himself, sang and amazed everyone, somehow he managed, and like this. How he did this, like that. Can we describe this? No.
Therefore, when we think beyond the examples given, when people are being hosted, they are being hosted by entities, then we will stop fearing this hosting and artificially regulate these processes within ourselves. If you are there, if you are kind, interesting, sincere, you haven’t deceived anyone, you’re not happy, you’ve even extended a hand to someone very bad, you’ve given them a chance. Okay, they deceived you, but you extended a hand. A good person should extend their hand, even if they are deceived. But we look at this life and think, the project didn’t work out. And when we look at our lived lives, we understand that everything worked out in this life. Because it’s this sincere desire to help, even if it didn’t happen here, but he did it, that gave him such a power, that in future lives, evidence of this growth of this essence is higher than any particular moments.
Interviewer: [64:08 – 64:20]
I’ll say again, not everyone will share this view about reincarnations and others. Let’s not go there. Prove it exists. Our program isn’t about proof.
Svetlana: [64:21 – 65:07]
Well, I mean, I now have a great deal of respect for the audience in the sense that they are very enlightened. Everyone already understands. Everyone feels, knows. Even those who deny it, they listen, they understand. Not in the sense of us, but they understand that there are some laws unknown, that such things have come to the surface from what seemed to us very pragmatic, very beneficial. That is, I generally believe in humanity. You know, you, and a very significant number of young people, different people, very young people have suddenly become so philosophically oriented, advanced in their search. There may be some mistakes, but have we ever seen such a thing before? Never, right?
Interviewer: [65:07 – 67:00]
And this is happening, here I’ll answer your question about Russia, it’s happening in the Russian-speaking space. When I started building Ladushki, I thought I would. But I’m building a community for such people to unite precisely such people who wake up, become aware, excuse me, I use this descriptive judgment, for this audience. But we unite, you can turn your back on these people, trust each other. We speak a language of honesty. And this curiosity you’re talking about, it’s our drive, our passion. It’s interesting to study these transcendent processes, like all this. It’s amazing.
So, here’s what I thought: I’d be inviting English, Spanish, and Chinese-speaking experts to Ladushka. And in the six months of project development, we’ve just finished filming an interview, thanks to this progress, and I’ve realized something: Russian-speaking experts are at the top of my expert list. That is, while I used to admire Robin Sharma, Joe Dispenza, Eckhart Tolle, working with our channelers, masters, and transcendent philosophers, I was just blown away by their depth.
When we touch on topics like clarity, existence, and how to have dialogues with God, it’s profound. Guys, all these experts are linked in the description, and this database exists and happens every Sunday in our community, so please check it out and join in. And we speak in Russian. I realized this because, perhaps, we’re living through a challenging period, filled with pain, when there’s uncertainty about the future, and we’re forced to grow spiritually first and foremost, or we’ll be broken by reality.
Svetlana: [67:00 – 70:53]
Well, there are also painful processes in Europe now, and they just have their way of thinking, yes, and they interpret reality like this. We have always been considered some sort of simpletons, very open, yes, and this gave us some air, yes, it gave us opportunities to try ourselves like this, and we saw how it worked. Those who didn’t try, they remain constrained within the framework of just surviving. That is, we want to live, but they just want to survive.
There are a lot of these nuances here. It’s about cultural care, it seems, of the language. The language topic is also significant. Our language is so rich, well, take the same Piranesi, when he painted all this, he made very precise drawings, and there were captions. And everyone says, well, it’s probably some sort of antique Italy, probably. They are decoded in Russian, but not in other languages. But no one from the Western audience wants to accept this. That is, it might be some sort of linguistic primordiality. Everything else has already emerged from it. It’s significant. That’s why there are a lot of things here.
We’re talking about wave theory and so on. It’s a language, it’s a wave theory. And the Russian language is a separate topic. I wanted to tell you something interesting, and perhaps also recall. I just wanted to tell you, as you say, about good and evil, how people are, what can be learned, what can’t. There was a poet, Khlebnikov, from the Silver Age, who was always hungry, he was extremely careless, he couldn’t do anything himself, he always walked around in some bag, I don’t know. And he was so, as we say now, advanced, he was so philosophically deeply interesting, on the second year of university, teachers would stand up before him and bow. When he entered, everyone stood up. That is, he didn’t ask anyone. He was a bit strange, it seemed. And he developed this metaphysical theme very strongly. And he said that for example, there are events. And in general, there should be an anti-event. That’s just how no one thought then. But people didn’t understand why this was happening. He found himself among dervishes, and they even recognized him as a saint. He didn’t convince anyone of anything.
That is the scale, that power coming from a human, it is a very important factor. We are always trying to dress up in something to make an impression. When a person is not dressed at all, always hungry, with only a bed and a chair, he says, “A lot of furniture gets in the way.” So, such people express themselves differently.
And now, as we are already in this intellectual experience, I would say, and suddenly we acquire such skills of a philosophical, metaphysical nature, and yes, what a complex is formed now. And it’s happening so rapidly.
The world is becoming young now. Why do I say this? Because important planets are entering this phase. It creates the birth of a personality, as a Personality, as a God-Personality, as new personalities altogether, which are burning with desire on one side and are flexible, yet structured and responsible. Can such a complex be found in a person? That’s what a person will be like.
Interviewer: [70:54 – 70:57]
I have met a new person, and they are a good person.
Svetlana: [70:58 – 71:00]
They are an honest person.
Interviewer: [71:00 – 71:01]
They are an honest person.
Svetlana: [71:01 – 72:17]
That’s a good word. A lot of interesting things are happening there right now. Each of the planets is preparing its sphere where it’s the main one. The technical process, let’s say financial, finance, is very friendly with magic in astrology. That is one energy. And it has already transitioned to another format where there is no hard centralization, no attempt to use energy centralized from one place and suppress everyone. It needs to be distributed. It has entered such a sphere but hasn’t found its allies yet. It enters and thinks, what to do? Let’s change the financial system. But how? Oh, we have a plan. And everyone has their own plan, right? Another planet trying to enter the information sphere, and it will enter there by next summer, 2026, it will completely change the entire technical communicative process, all, actually, the topic related to logistics, movement, will change information consumption, making it instant, so it’s preparing its ground, but it’s…
Interviewer: [72:17 – 72:19]
It’s already summer 2026.
Svetlana: [72:19 – 72:19]
Yes.
Interviewer: [72:19 – 72:20]
Shift in finance, you would say?
Svetlana: [72:21 – 73:06]
Well, everything there, it starts, and then there are additional factors that change everything, the sphere, and then they say, guys, let’s hold hands, let’s go together now, everything is new. And there’s no such thing, if they would meet at a destructive angle, it would bring terrible aggression. It could be anything, but I think that of course, we won’t avoid natural catastrophes, especially since a lot of things are indicating that the earth is moving, the axis is shifting, it’s going back and forth, and eventually it chooses the guiding force in which it will stay. And this will happen sometime in February or March. This is very disturbing, of course.
Interviewer: [73:06 – 73:13]
Oh, I don’t really understand, to put it simply for a regular person, will there be earthquakes next year in spring?
Svetlana: [73:14 – 73:57]
Look, when the Earth adjusts its axis, everything changes physically. How will this be? For example, the sea might catch fire, like how could that happen? It looks like something becomes plastic, water acquires different properties, it’s completely re-coded, and we are made of water. So, our bodies are re-structured according to a new coding system, there’s a danger from the sky, but, of course, we are somehow protected, but nonetheless, this is a danger of cosmic proportions.
Interviewer: [73:58 – 74:00]
Can we talk about this?
Svetlana: [74:00 – 76:07]
No, not that we can, simply I am such a person, definitely, if I wrote, I say there, there are deadlines, details, we just touch on many topics, but at the same time, this does not mean that we will now restructure and here everyone will be equal. There is some struggle for a single Earth coordinator, for example. This sounds strange now, but it is so.
This can also create such very contradictory and aggressive processes because the contradiction that lies in such a concept as energy and power will enter into a huge conflict sometime around July, around the 26th, roughly.
How will it behave? There’s a lot to discuss here, because if we talk about faces and, in particular, politics, there too, imagine, all these processes completely destroy everything – this geopolitical environment, the physical environment, the human body, the issue of time and space, it will change, starting to change around the 26th. And the questions of contact with alien civilizations, all of that is also there. So, we’re currently in a state, especially when we’re recording interviews, end of October, November, we’re pushed as far away from this wall where the future is, the light is out, and the old world is trying to pull us back. Of course, it has no chance, it’s useless, but our perception dictates to us that there’s probably nothing good behind that wall, because it’s too dark.
That’s how we perceive things now. But it’s clear that when everyone is worried, it starts in February, yes, everything is dangerous, unsettling. But we wanted freedom, we wanted a new world. But it can’t just happen like that. Although the planets behave in such a way, they’re doing everything to pass through this, as gently as possible. It won’t work like that. There’s too much chaos.
Interviewer: [76:07 – 76:09]
Swetlana, I got a bit confused, please correct me.
Swetlana: [76:09 – 76:10]
Yes, yes.
Interviewer: [76:10 – 76:20]
So, are we facing technocratic slavery or spiritual development? Because you said very strongly that we are in a mess and darkness, but on the other hand, there is a revival.
Swetlana: [76:20 – 77:03]
No, no..why? I meant, about now, what do you mean? I say that we can’t see from November what will be in February, and March, and further. That is, we are now, in full darkness, with our consciousness, and we don’t believe in the good. And it seems to us that all this negative pressure is now bearing down on us and will continue to do so. Well, that’s for today. And then comes a breakthrough. But a breakthrough for each person. According to their, as it’s now said, vibrations. There it will be. And what’s happening now, just don’t pay attention. Many schemes, especially those being voiced, won’t go through.
Interviewer: [77:04 – 77:15]
How do you recognize false leaders or false gurus who broadcast certain knowledge, confusing people?
Svetlana: [77:16 – 77:17]
They might believe in this holiday.
Interviewer: [77:18 – 77:19]
Do they believe in this holiday?
Svetlana: [77:19 – 77:51]
Yes, when you’re so sure you’re leading a crowd, you declare it openly, following me. This declaration of “follow me” is already… a cause for tension for me. If someone is living and someone else wants to follow them, it’s interesting. Thank goodness. But when this leader himself makes such a claim, where does this confidence in his own right come from? Especially, since those who make such declarations, more often than not, it’s a display of irresponsibility rather than responsibility.
Interviewer: [78:24 – 78:53]
There’s a story from the Bible that comes to mind on this topic. There’s this entity, the Devil, who comes to a righteous person and tries to tempt them with various sins. The person refuses everything, all the sins, he says no, no, no, the Devil tries all sorts of tricks, but he can’t do anything to him because he’s so holy. He doesn’t drink, smoke, cheat, steal, or anything. The Devil is baffled and says, “Tell him that he needs followers.”Svetlana: [78:24 – 78:27]Here it is, the hook. Yes, indeed.Interviewer: [78:28 – 78:41]A little about hobbies. We touched on and explored various metaphysical topics. You paint, do horse riding. Anything else? Besides your professional work.Svetlana: [78:41 – 78:42]I write poems, and I do a lot of other things.
Interviewer: [78:43 – 78:44]
Here, you write poems.
Svetlana: [78:45 – 78:50]
Well, a lot has changed during that time. I even did bodybuilding for two years.
Interviewer: [78:50 – 78:51]
That was in the past.
Svetlana: [78:51 – 78:54]
Yes, I was even a champion.
Interviewer: [78:54 – 79:19]
Maybe Svetlana will send me something else secretly, and she has already sent some things. You can see this on the screen now about her hobbies. Equestrian sports. How it is implemented into this small, fragile Svetlana Drogon, who does such processes, and here are the horses, all these. That’s it. Why? Does anyone do dressage in the studio?
Svetlana: [79:20 – 79:21]
Yes, yes.
Interviewer: [79:22 – 79:23]
Even close.
Svetlana: [79:23 – 81:32]
An assistant came to me who also deals with this, knows this story. Overall, it’s actually a strange topic. When I saw something completely extraordinary, fantastic, like, as if higher powers had descended on me and directly blessed me, I was expecting something like this, yes. And this competition happened. Through it, a very strong force comes and a very big opportunity to compare. When these fears, you say, what if this, what if that? It’s a big risk, and you experience that risk every day on yourself. It’s a very big risk, and there have been many falls, injuries, and so on, and all this fuss, which is built on some minor fears that these people paint for themselves, but nothing happens to them, they continue to be afraid.
And, probably, this is some inner form of growth and a special relationship with nature, a touch. Overall, this creature, a horse, is just this boiling velvet. Steam is coming off of him. And it’s just incredible. It’s power and beauty that doesn’t even think about how beautiful it is in every movement. And this interaction, when you discover some strings, such a delicate perception, that you feel it, because it’s not that simple. Uninitiated people think that the horse jumps the route by itself, and you just sit there. It won’t go anywhere, you can’t force it to jump. It’s a very complex thing that forms special qualities in you – responsibility, fearless, perseverance, and infinite empathy, because it’s interaction. And I just don’t want to bore you.
Interviewer: [81:32 – 81:34]
They need to sync with him.
Svetlana: [81:34 – 82:17]
As my trainer says. – Like in “Avatar”. – Yes, that’s what she says. Yes, because sometimes… I’ve had different horses, and now they’re changing. I now have two main ones. And with someone, you just can’t do anything, you can’t love her, and she feels it. And they take revenge for you paying attention to someone else and not noticing.
Interviewer: [82:18 – 82:18]
Is this common?
Svetlana: [82:18 – 83:38]
It’s just the way it is, yes. And I understood she would tell me everything she thought about it. And she did. I sat with this trauma for three months. So, it’s all very… Moreover, there’s one well-known stage star who treats people with conspiracies. And this is how they reacted to these conspiracies, she was talking to them on the phone. And I had this horse, unfortunately, he’s not in good shape now. And during this treatment, she was telling him right on the phone, reciting a prayer. And he started licking me with such tenderness. It’s just incredible. He was so grateful. And my mare, she was just listening, just everything like that. They have something they can’t tell us, but it’s an incredible world. It’s different forms of consciousness. We just don’t know them at all, and it’s so wise. They don’t need our ambitions or any of our nonsense. These entities wouldn’t attach themselves to them, they’re honest just as they are. When you communicate with this world, you can’t find human words to convey what it is. You can only feel it.
Interviewer: [83:39 – 83:41]
Horses, dolphins.
Svetlana: [83:42 – 84:20]
Yes, everything, I think, cats, cats, it’s the same. They do, for example, when they’re about to die, in the days leading up to it, they approach every family member, stare deeply into their eyes, press themselves against them and purr, and this purring they do before death, it’s very healing, it heals bones, everything. And then they leave, and this lasts for 40 days, this trace. That is, their care for us, it’s silent, we don’t understand it, we interpret it in our own way, we’re so distant from all of this, we should learn from them and learn.
Interviewer: [84:20 – 84:26]
That’s why we need to open our hearts, increase our sensitivity, interact more, deeper.
Svetlana: [84:26 – 84:45]
And this is an incredible physical tone. You can come there slack, and leave from the workout, I have it happen twice in a row, you leave strong, just power, and the whole world seems to be in your palm. Then it’s all about jumps, it’s adrenaline, it’s a very serious matter.
Interviewer: [84:45 – 85:21]
Svetlana, what do you currently live? Are there any other questions about existence? Why am I asking this question? More and more highly conscious, spiritually developed experts in their field, I see in them not a lost look and not a dead look, like, you know, everything is clear to me, it’s time to go. I don’t want to name the surname now, I’ll tell you three names outside the camera. He is the deepest, he has the deepest knowledge, that is, what work he has done, how he helps people. This world is no longer interesting to us.
Svetlana: [85:22 – 85:25]
You just feel it. I even seem to guess who.
Interviewer: [85:25 – 85:31]
Yes, everyone guesses. We all talk about him, like.
Svetlana: [85:31 – 85:43]
Actually, even in the case of one person, in the case of Bakhtin, I think there is an excessive seriousness. In general, when we talk about something so seriously, we understand everything, we know everything, it’s so funny.
Interviewer: [85:44 – 86:08]
I wanted to ask you, first of all, how you relate to this, if a person doesn’t exude elementary love, elementary happiness and harmony, but exudes knowledge, if they exude here and now. And why is all of this necessary if it doesn’t bring this creation, this inspiration, this urge, back to what we started the conversation with, when we talked about a new person?
Svetlana: [86:08 – 87:18]
It seems to me, this is a dangerous path when you’re already proud and feeling drunk from the significance of your own abilities, your knowledge. It seems worse than any other larva, if I’m being honest. It seems… I’ve been analyzing a lot lately and asking myself, did I have such opportunities in my youth, but I didn’t go for them, I chose this instead, even though I could have, as they were offered to me. I think, thank goodness, how fortunate that I now realize what I’m doing, what I want. In a good place, you know, and it makes me so happy, and there’s so much interesting stuff, and I still want to do so much more. I can’t, I’m just so inspired by life. I truly believe, Lord, what a blessing, how much there is, and I just love these brushes, if I don’t get to paint, it’s hard sometimes, when I hold them, it’s already okay. In short, that’s it. You just live, right? You have this life up to this point, understand? It reaches its peak, and you’re just floating in it. It’s full, you’re full.
Interviewer: [87:18 – 87:19]
Satiation doesn’t happen.
Svetlana: [87:19 – 89:57]
No, no, no. On the contrary. I even think I now understand those who don’t want to leave here, because it’s magical. It’s what we’re given. We don’t appreciate this material enough. We’re given to play, they said, “Do you want to be creators? Here you go, take it by hand.” Look at all this. I think, “Christmas trees,” I still have a piano, I used to play there. Now it’s a little too late to get into this. There’s so much you can do, see, feel, smell, I don’t know, touch – it’s an impossible happiness.
And these are the tools given to us, so everything that seems difficult in comparison to this – it’s all nonsense. In general, people know little about such people, who are completely extraordinary. There was such a mother, Maria Karavaeva, her surname, she is considered a saint in the West, but here we lacked the feats. Although this was something unimaginable. The person loved people so much. It sounds stupid now when I say ‘love people’. It’s not just words. She was in love with Blok at 14 years old and wrote to him: “I don’t even know, mother, am I to you or a wife.”
Yes, so she buried one of her daughters, walking from the cemetery, and said that suddenly I felt an extraordinary love for people, I need to do something. She just rolled up her sleeves, went there, didn’t know, cooked, fried for the fallen, for the drunk, for the abandoned. That is, a person who completely dedicated themselves to people, ignoring the deprivations. And when she even ended up in a camp, a concentration camp, they beat her there, there was another Russian girl nearby, and instead of screaming, as they were very angry with her, she had to do, she calmly talked to her during that time.
In general, there are some heroes, we don’t know about them, who didn’t just get saturated with life, they lived this life as the greatest feat ever. And don’t think of it as a feat. It was just their necessity. When you understand that you have this necessity and you still really want to do it, I think then yes. And what about knowledge, what is it? Today it’s like this, and now a different time will come. It will all fade into such naivety.
Interviewer: [89:57 – 90:06]
We’re done. Blitz. What book made the most powerful impression on you throughout your life?
Svetlana: [90:07 – 90:10]
“Amok” by Stefan Zweig.
Interviewer: [90:13 – 90:17]
Okay. Good. I haven’t heard of it.
Svetlana: [90:17 – 90:22]
No, it’s just not on topic at all, but it did make an impression on me at the time, but that was youth.
Interviewer: [90:23 – 90:28]
A film that left a mark? And do you recommend our audience watch it?
Svetlana: [90:29 – 90:49]
No, I wouldn’t recommend such things, it’s all very subjective. I. Well, surprisingly, it might seem strange, but I have a film called “Hunger”, with Catherine Deneuve and David Bowie. It’s mystical, not really like that, but there’s something about it.
Interviewer: [90:49 – 90:55]
Alright. Is there a question you haven’t been able to get an answer for? One that’s on your mind right now and rings the loudest.
Svetlana: [90:58 – 91:09]
Am I doing the right thing by saying sports and horses are compatible or not?
Interviewer: [91:10 – 91:11]
Sports and horses?
Svetlana: [91:11 – 91:20]
Well, it’s my ambitions, after all, they should be realizing them somehow, so is it humane?
Interviewer: [91:21 – 91:24]
When you meet God, what will you tell Him?
Svetlana: [91:25 – 91:31]
I’ll listen to Him. Why would He need to say something? I’ll be happy to hear Him.
Interviewer: [91:31 – 91:41]
What’s on your mind? What do you want to wish for? Not just predict, but what do you want to share right now? What’s inside Svetlana Dragon?
Svetlana: [91:43 – 92:00]
Perhaps, it’s best to say that you should only believe in yourself and your instincts. And if you find the chance to cleanse yourself of the information you’ve taken in and ask yourself, you’ll discover the whole truth. And for this, you won’t need anyone to ask for answers.
