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svetlanaSpring, starting in March, it will present a completely different course of events. This is an upgrade that has not been in our land for a long time. Our message from within and our honesty with ourselves is practically expensive in the easier ways of living this life. Purification takes place on all levels, and even what we thought was normal, good, suddenly turns to us in a completely different direction. You can rely only on yourself, on your quality, on your independence. We have to hurry to adapt to this future, which 2025 will give us in such portions, at such speeds that we will only have time to understand, adapt and accept these new processes.

InterviewerSvetlana Dragan is an astrologer, a long-term practitioner in the field of palmistry, physiognomy, writer, expert in the field of geopolitical and economic forecasting. For about 30 years he has been studying and analyzing the influence of stars not only on the fate of people, but also countries in a general civilizational context.

Svetlana declared herself as an astrologer back in 2000, and in 2009 her economic and geopolitical forecasts became popular. In 2014, Dragan published a book “The Executioner Himself”. How to save and improve your life, where Svetlana analyzed the complex of ancient anthropological knowledge, using which a person can not come into conflict with cosmic algorithms and nature, but rather find the opportunity to live in peace.

Many of Dragan’s predictions in recent years have been prophetic. But, of course, the interest is not only her ability to foresee the course of events, but also to point out those things that are sewn between the lines. They become a kind of transcription and translation of what this event means for people in general and for people in particular. What lessons can everyone learn and what things to lean on in a turbulent changing world.

What is beauty?

InterviewerSvetochka, I ask all my heroes this question, but with special trepidation, of course, I want to know the answer to it from you. This channel is called About Beauty. What is beauty to you?

svetlana: You know, Irochka, over the years, when there is some experience of human perception, Beauty as a complex concept arises immediately when you see a person.

This is not a question of style, not a question of age, but a question of some extraordinary lighting from a person. This is important to me. And more than that, when it’s overshadowed by some external effects, there’s a moment of doubt about beauty. So the more natural, the better. Maybe I don’t fit this concept myself, but I see it that way.

Interviewer: You know, I will be interested to know in our conversation how much will happen next year, in 2025 and back and forth. And next year is very interesting to me, because everyone calls it a special year. How many people are going to be like that? And what will need to be done to ensure that this inner glow, it does not overlap? As far as I understand, there are more moments that throw light in people now than ever before.

svetlana: I think the transparency of perception will be greater.

Well, let’s say, by the number of people. Just the perception, the feeling of each other will be so pronounced that the contrast will be obvious.

Interviewer: Let’s talk about it. You’re on the beauty channel. And today is my heroine. A woman whom I love very much, I appreciate very much. Astrologer Svetlana Dragan. Sveta, hi.

svetlana: Thank you so much for coming. Ira, thanks for inviting me. It’s really good to see you. I know you’re a really cool interviewer, and you’re very easy to open up to.

Interviewer: Thank you very much. But I hope our conversation today will be another revelation. And not only for me, but for the entire audience, for all the people who he watches this interview, because every time I talk to you, I feel these things in myself, a new layer and a new angle of view opens up.

And this is not just an opportunity to look beyond the horizon, as we call it, but also an opportunity to look inside yourself and reveal certain depths there.

2024 results. How he was.

I want to start our conversation from 2024 because it wasn’t just leap-and-difficult. This proverb has already appeared among the people. It’s 2024. He was really unpleasant from various points of view. The most scandalous was the Olympics, the most scandalous was Eurovision, scandalous elections in America, a huge number of scandalous divorces and so on. I understand that every medal has two sides. And someone calls it cleaning. How do you look at the results of this year? Everything that happened for you.

svetlana: We assumed that it would be this way, it would be really destructive to the previous points of view of systems, of worldviews in general, and so on.

It must have been, was revealing and really scandalous, when this revelation does not immediately define the camps and puts everything in place. This is the moment when purification happens on all levels, and even what we thought was normal, good, suddenly turns to us completely different. Sideways, this transparency, it’s always painful. Well, in every field, it looked like this.

And then I talked a lot about partnerships, both globally and privately. And this partnership suddenly, when we saw both business partners and personal partners on some other side, maybe disappointing. Maybe we were in a state of illusion, and it somehow gave us such miracles.

That is, yes, the polarization of society and understanding, and, in general, when we say “cleansing”, it is a sense that there is someone good and someone bad. There’s a world that combines everything – the acceptance and the notion that relationships are probably a reflection of how we think about them. We probably got the result of all this.

I know that everyone has their own story, and they are completely exclusive, I would say exotic, so you can talk about it a lot. But we can even see what it looks like at the global level, because the issue of relations is a question of rights and the rules that we establish among ourselves. And when these rules are formal, when they are only for some completely different purposes, and not for universal purposes, they completely cease to work. It happens in all areas.

The departure of the old system. Why it is important to be self-sufficient

Interviewer: Partnership is a time, but when we met, it was in July 2023, you said that 2024 and 2025 will be the time of the collapse of the old system, which is aimed at infantileity and is built on such directive, let’s say. And that the next two years, that is, this outgoing 2024th and next 2025th, this is just a test of independence. According to your observations, how the tests develop, who passes it, who does not pass it?

svetlana: We were just talking about partnership. Partnership is good when each partner contains something, some integrity. And this is not a matter of a crutch to rely on another partner, but a question of some parity, mutual weight. This is probably a big problem for many. I consider 2024 to be the most… I don’t feel it as the most unpleasant. Personally. All the years are good in their own way. But it’s very complicated.

The year 2025 will be completely different. But this withdrawal of the system and the unpreparedness of many for this, and suddenly such an unpleasant feeling that there is nothing to rely on. All systems, all rigid frameworks are destroyed. And here you can rely only on yourself, on your quality, on your independence. It is not a question of such independence, of some kind of leadership. It’s a question of self-sufficiency. And when the system can’t help you, you can’t hold on to it like a pillar, and you can only rely on yourself in all your choices in life. And then you feel steady. If you rely on what you promised, on some kind of resilience, it doesn’t work anymore.

Partnership and autonomy

InterviewerLight, I want you here… Still, this is an important story for me, because 2024 was really a test for me. We are talking about partnership and independence. These are two seemingly opposite things. Self-reliance implies the following: “I am alone, I know what to do, I rely entirely on myself”, and partnership, on the contrary, “I can rely on a partner”. Is that what you think is important? And I understand that this did not just happen in 2024, and we passed, we go to the next stations in 2025, and it will be different there. No, that’s the bridge right there. And that’s a very important thing to focus on. Is that what you’d focus on if that’s what we’re talking about?

svetlana: We talked about directiveness, that is, independence – it is some kind of leadership, it is some kind of leadership, it even looks like some kind of competition. We talk about independence as the scale of the individual, as the acceptance of everything, where you can give room to maneuver your partner. It’s also a quality of self-sufficiency when you’re not demanding something you’re missing from another person, when you’re willing to accept what you think is very important about that person, to consider it. You can’t fool yourself, you can’t blindfold yourself and say, well, after all, I need status, well, after all, I need a man, and if I have a man, then I’m self-sufficient.

No, it should be an easy feeling of partnership, when it does not require social conditions, some external factors, the status of your partner.

When there is something that makes you complete, it complements your fullness. It’s not a matter of leadership, it’s not a matter of taking over that bag, taking over and taking someone with you. This is true when the qualities are internal, they correspond to the person who is nearby.

It doesn’t mean that two strong men come up and push the ship forward like that. They can be completely different people. But it’s transparency of understanding, lack of self-deception, and true partnership. The future is not based on the passions of love. Oddly enough, people will be much calmer. The feeling of human beauty, we even talked about it at the beginning, is not only an external factor, it must be complementary internally.

And when we see this beauty complex in a person, sometimes he can be silent and seem weak to someone. But these are all very relative concepts. Sometimes such a person can take on his shoulders a lot at a time when the other is difficult. So it’s a plastic concept. It does not have a rigid framework and is certainly not conditioned by social positions.

Relationships with children

Interviewer: An important point that we are discussing now, because our last conversation was about the relationship with our children. We talked a lot about education, about how our perception of ourselves, how it will affect our children.

Quote: We have our children, so if we talk to them, we even listen to what he thinks about it. Let him train his vision, his vision, and let it be encouraged, not driven into the framework of some generally accepted things, concepts. That is, to develop the ability to think independently, without paying attention to some such generally accepted ways, decisions.

Interviewer: And this year, I’m just seeing the visual unpacking of your words. Children seem to become different, and when you do not have the core, this independence, confidence, do not stand firmly on their own principles, understanding of how to live, how to build relationships with other people. And as if children are even stronger than your partners or anyone else, that reflects you.

svetlana: But they’re more natural. Their firmware is different. This firmware hasn’t opened yet. And so when this firmware difference, let’s call it that, maybe it sounds technical, but nevertheless we understand what’s behind it. When a parent has the size inside to be confident in their child.

I’m not saying it that way, not hollowly. I am a mother myself and I have an adult son. I’ve always followed that rule, because if you trust him, he understands internally that he’s responsible, that he’s not secondary, that he’s not evaluating himself, and he’s natural. And then he shows independence and care, and understands simply without words, understands that he has some part of the responsibility for all this. We have to listen to what is in them, they will live in the future.

And this future, looking ahead, the restructuring of this future, right on this organic-natural level, on some other code, will begin to manifest itself by the spring of 2025. This is such a powerful restructuring, in general, and civilizational, biological, and natural. Well, there’s a whole lot of stuff. When we were kids, we didn’t even know who we were going to be. When something is revealed, we become adults, open up some possibilities, and suddenly it becomes clear who we really are.

Just like this. The children who came are our future. The children who came here are the key to the future that I believe in.

And I believe that this nature, this absence of the same old directive logic, which we said should be done like this, logic sometimes looks like a barrier that prevents you from hearing your true self, your true partner, if you will. That’s when we take that off, that barrier is removed, that veil, and suddenly we start to feel. And that feeling doesn’t fool us. And this naturalness of feeling, when the priority of the soul, I’m not accidentally talking about it, it gives rise to a completely different contact between people. You can’t fool each other. Transparency emerges. We talked about the fact that we meet a person and suddenly begin to feel. He can be so beautiful, he can be dressed like that, and everything in him is so wonderful, and we can feel the falsity, the lies, that something is distorted. There’s nothing to cover it up for.

And these kids, they can feel it more than we do. Therefore, the discomfort that we give them with our rules, they understand that something is wrong here, but they cannot explain it to us yet, and some already, apparently, can. We must hurry to adapt to this future, which 2025 will give us in such portions, at such speeds that we will only have time to understand, adapt and accept these new processes.

2025: The Year of Self-Integrity

Interviewer: Then it turns out that if 2024 was still a year of partnership, in part, yes, then 2025 is just about honesty with oneself.

svetlana: Detection of partnership, not partnership, but what in our understanding it is, what concepts were introduced, were false, were established rules.

Soon the rules will change at all levels, both human and international rights, because the redistribution of this landscape, this geopolitical and human landscape, it brings us into a new atmosphere with which we are not familiar. In order to get acquainted with it, to remove all unnecessary ideas about partnership, about the rules of relationships, we have this test in 2024. And a lot of people were faced with the fact that, it would seem, the relationship, which was so straight idyllic, suddenly, in general, moved to a completely different phase. So perhaps 2024 was a test of whether we were ready for the rules, including the social ones, or whether we had to play by different rules.

And now 2025, in connection with its renewal even at the level of brain activity, I may not know whether I noticed it or not, very many psychological states are reaching the extreme, because the processes of perception, the processes of stable stamps, which will dissolve, and now only a premonition of this are being reconstructed. That’s not what’s going to happen.

From March 2025, the structure of water changes

So all that’s connected is even health, because we’re mostly water. And water is a carrier of information. It encodes it, it brings it into us and unpacks it, as we now say. And the structure of the water changes.

It will change so much in several stages from March that our perception, all the systems that we thought were inviolable, should become plastic, give us a chance for some range of possible perception. We didn’t see him. But, on the other hand, to understand that for our choice, for this range, we are responsible for ourselves. That’s the question, we talk all the time, we have to think about someone, because that’s our task. To think about someone, you have to have something in you. To give someone something, you have to have it. Having it inside is not selfish. It’s something you can offer someone. And if you don’t have one, it’s harder. That’s the whole story.

Transition and search for identity

InterviewerAs long as we are still like people consisting of water and, perhaps, not noticing, but feeling after all these changes that happen to us from the inside. However, many of us are probably at odds with ourselves, because we say and think mostly what the existing systems fly into our heads, and what we constantly interfere with and say in our heads. And here it seems as if two opposing things collide from the inside. How, then, with the help of those processes of cosmic order that are taking place, can we already survive in this internal confrontation?

svetlana: Well, in general, everything moves in order, that is, there are no immediate transformations, there are some test modes.

Literally, at the end of November, there will be a transition to a completely different energy state, where the system approach itself, where all this density, it begins to collapse, giving us opportunities, giving us a form of freedom, a completely different energy. We’re going to see it in different layers. Energy is everything, money is energy. And even at this level, we will begin to see the beginning of changes that no longer function as centralization, as dictation from some center that tells us how to behave. And this identity and the search for one’s own identity, without any copying from anyone, becomes a priority quality.

Of course, when such a transition happens, people may be confused at first.

Natural processes will also be confused, because such a restructuring is like a transition to a different quality, it attracts a lot of things, including, of course, natural things. Yes, we will see that we cannot afford to rely on some financial promises that have always been, we were somehow guaranteed and so on.

Something will force us to seek out these powers and seek our truth. Honesty to yourself and to yourself. There’s no other way. Honesty. As soon as such a compromise occurs somewhere, at the event level, it will simply throw a person out of the field of possibilities. He will feel that something is wrong with his body because it is a resistance to biological progress.

After all, we talked about water, it already contains the form of a certain relationship, say, not with some system, a country, but with space, if you will. Before space has its own reporting, relatively speaking, its rules. The word “space” will be used at all levels. It will be a question of really new energies, it will be a question of space as an interest in it. It would be like the freedom to be in such a free space. How do you balance when you are in a vacuum? Or you just fly and you don’t have any weight. That is, the absence of the previous guarantee of weight, which was given to everything, epaulettes, status, anything, does not work. We see how the system began to destroy all these status options, whether someone likes it or not.

How do you deal with that? To believe yourself, to believe what your intuition tells you, if you will, is true. The fact that you are prompted by the rule that you need to do this, and you will go and use external tools to solve problems, it will not be solved. You just said the thought. When you already form an understanding in your thoughts that you are right, that this situation will soon be like this, she will begin to show herself quite quickly the situation that it is true and consists of your sensations, your thoughts, the reflections of your emotions. And if there are positive thoughts, it would seem that all this enthusiasm is so invented, and the soul is bad, this will not work either.

That is, we must understand that our feeling, our inner state, even from relationships, from interaction, if we set ourselves up for understanding, maybe for some generosity, if we lack something. We still give our temporary interlocutor or partner a chance to show up. We send him the energy he reflects. If we send him distrust, he will reflect distrust. That is, our message from within and our honesty with ourselves is practically expensive in the easier ways of living this life. It’ll be obvious. But there are people who have such rigid attitudes that it will be very difficult for them.

And this inner flexibility, the understanding that fate, events prompt you something, they reflect your thoughts, this will be the reference point, which, if you understand this, you are calm, you will see this return all the time. The return from that state and your truthfulness, irresistibility even human, this magnetism is internal, when it is pleasant to communicate with a person, when you understand that something comes from him that you want to continue this. And this is the path that leads us to a new understanding of relationships and ourselves and building the world.

Do not think that you need to find a new profession tomorrow. This will be suggested later, it will come, because the changes that nature will present to us, which will now direct the processes, and not some person or any country. It’s all gone. It will change a lot, show us, and maybe even in a tough form.

A new course of events from spring 2025

Interviewer: What will happen? and when will it start if it hasn’t already started?

svetlana: Of course, we already see these assumptions, because understanding how astrology works, it must always be on the exact date? When global processes operate, and they are managed by the so-called distant planets, they do not come in one day for nothing. They have a long band of influence over time. But if we talk about the most global processes step by step, important, then, probably, now we are completing this destructive process, nothing works, in any areas and so on. And spring, starting in March, it will present a completely different course of events. It will not be guided by the decisions of political leaders or anyone else. Nature will be renewed very powerfully.

This is just such an upgrade, which, in fact, I have not been to our terrestrial lands for a long time, and not only in the terrestrial, but also in the cosmic ones. This is happening at all levels. And of course, the leading factor will be water, this is the water element. But this is a very complicated process, because we are talking about pole shifts, we are talking about changing the contours of different continents, if you will, shifting the climate.

And don’t think that any of the people here are going to figure out how to deal with it. But this has nothing to do with the greenhouse effect, with the amount of human invasion of nature. The process we’ve come to is time. It was planned a long time ago, there is no escape from it. There is a restructuring of, say, the magnetic fields of all, even physical laws, if you will. A lot of physics will stop working.

All these sciences that we have, they can first come into such a contradiction, how does nothing work? And then you realize that even the laws of physics, they’re dynamic, they’re not static. We had such a matrix grid at least of the Earth. So we had almost no choice. When we talk about directive, that is, we acted as we were told, we had no doubt that this is right, and this is not right, because there are capital truths, and here we are for them. .

And here, indeed, few people could act plastically and somehow express themselves so independently that their society would not eat later. We saw such people who were somewhere in the backyard or left, remained some kind of genius, but in everyday life they were not recognized. Now another story.

It’s this plasticity of choices at all levels — social, psychological, whatever. She’s welcome. And what is happening now with the natural environment, with the possibilities of time, which is beginning to behave differently, people must match them. Their inner, say, worldview is a guarantee that they fit into this world.

If this understanding is not there, then there is resistance, an attempt to impose its own rules, which were, and all that, it does not work. It starts to destroy everything, and the body, and those systems that are nearby, and the people that are nearby, because it does not fit.

And those natural processes that will take place, many areas will simply be flooded with water. Somewhere there will be lava, somewhere there will be an earthquake, and somewhere there will be water elements. But water, as a reprogramming factor, will be dominant at all levels. Moreover, it will acquire completely different properties that we have not seen before, which may seem like ice, despite the fact that it will remain in a quite normal temperature regime.

All the planets are moving. It is a form of communication and perception of information. The energy that we first used, say, energy systems that required certain mechanisms and so on, wires and so on. It’s all a thing of the past. Not immediately. But in order to take this step, we will face the fact that we need to rebuild the management system, the internal management system, the distribution of duties, responsibilities and so on.

That is, all those state systems that were. they will be subjected to a categorical restructuring, categorical. When you look at Russia and see what will happen, especially after spring, from summer to autumn of 2025, I do not remember so many perestroika steps.

And these are radical things. And if we tried somewhere to patch something up, rebuild something, rearrange some roles, make some mini-steps, then the old system will simply be uprooted. I do not know how correct it is to say this here, but the administrative structures, for example, in Russia, from June to autumn 2025, will be rebuilt categorically. This is a renewed team at all levels, it is a renewed form of regional management in general.

When it feels like it’s just something like this in the summer, it’ll be like this, no. By the fall, this will definitely be such a powerful radical restructuring that it will be clear that Russia has changed. Why not? Because in this global plan, Russia should become a flagship. The flagship of building a new world. And this world is supposed to be multipolar, of course decentralized. There’s no other way.

Of course, this will not happen immediately, but, nevertheless, we will see a lot of things. We will see how the Middle East will change as a result of very difficult geopolitical clashes, transformations and so on. Everything will be progressive, but everything is going to ensure that Russia has time to rebuild, to be able to set this tone for everyone, so that there is where to go, because different things can happen outside Russia.

Russia itself, too, will not escape these natural disasters. And it is very possible that we will even have some completely different navigation, river or sea. There is a feeling that some areas may be flooded, and we will even have to think about how we will carry out logistics to such an extent.

On Global Natural Processes

Interviewer: We are talking about 2025, which means that the climate change you just mentioned is 2025.

svetlana: The first incorporation of these natural processes in a global form as a testing first set is in spring, but mostly there is March around 2025. This is an attempt, among other things, to calibrate who will enter the new world, how it will all be, how the human body has adapted or not, what needs to be adjusted to this. But the final, this one is not on the draft, but on the white, it will be written, it will be written in February 2026.

This is the final phase of one of the most important factors in the restructuring of natural processes. There’s no going back. If, for example, in March, some fluctuations are possible, someone did not have time, did not understand, did not decide on something, then there are some options here. But since February 26th, and therefore, perhaps, these changes in Russia, they will take place in such a dynamic mode that by 2026 they will have time to assume a certain role of a unifying factor, the role of a new ideological leader, rather than a dominant one. That’s not the word either.

The idea and understanding of the world, even some religious spheres, are all one to some extent. And when the moment of naturalization of a person comes, after all, Russia, in general, all that is connected with Russia, is what supports, well, the only place, probably, that is still naturalized and supports this idea, keeps it on itself.

Everything that is based on transhumanism, on all the derivatives of this transhumanism, will certainly fail, and it is not necessarily there directly. You can’t, you can’t. Nature will show it, and anything. And this is the factor of the need to think about yourself, to think about what is most important – whether material values or this inner potential that exists, which is able to alchemically provide these material values. Well, I don’t know if I’m talking or not, but we’re going to see a very large degree of transformation, and probably America will be very affected. It seems that America will also be divided into two parts, or, at least, it will no longer be an integral continent.

And anything to do with the hope that Trump is going to bring something, But this is an illusion, because Trump, and all forms of the idea of capitalization in general, will not work unless they integrate completely different human values. For Trump. It won’t be easy in spring either. But If he manages to survive all this, there will be some chance to continue the activity, but only if he can transform himself.Because the idea of such selfishness and centralization of power, such a materialistic, pragmatic approach, a business approach as dominants, would be a self-destructive idea. It’s not like anyone’s going to punish him.

We now see that there are circumstances stronger than the decisions made by leaders. Human leadership is not working as it is. It can work in the case when a person will correspond to the formats we talked about.

How do you become useful to the world?

Interviewer: Light, you know, we talked about it, too. You are now consolidating what you said a little more than a year ago that man, this paradigm that comes into its own in 2024 and develops further in 2025, must be useful to this world. Then, of course, I want to ask you what this main benefit should consist of, what do you mean and how then a person should feel useful against the background of advancing artificial intelligence. Where is this main human component?

svetlana: We cannot assume, for example, that if there is not this inner fullness of each person, that society can be somehow filled and so on, you can be useful if, again, you have something to bring there, what benefit. Once you have that in you, you can give something. This balance is not ego, but really inner content, to take care of it. It’s a prerequisite. Then you are already doing a lot for the world, because you can ask for help, because you can give something. And if you can only give your weakness and just some declarations, we have already seen it. It doesn’t work and it won’t work anymore. Therefore, of course, the question is first of all the sensations of “I am”. “I’m coming.” So it’s not a profession. It’s a state of mind.

And when it is, the soul will call to you all those forms, even professional ones. Self-expression, absolutely. Creativity is not just a matter of singing, writing, painting. It’s a question of when you create your world around you, when you create the people who are next to you, because those who are right for you are attracted.

We now notice how the worlds have become very different, and we even sometimes do not come into contact with another world, we see it and wonder, it turns out that it exists, and people somehow live. I even think that clusters of worlds like this will be organized, and even the financial system will partly correspond to this cluster. It’s a form of being in the financial orbit that you fit.

You can move into another orbit, and it’s not a format of social growth, your status, something that has been attributed to you, you have no education, you have taken a leadership role. It doesn’t work anymore.

But it will. Not immediately. Because I was making predictions, frankly, almost until 2028, and I saw so many challenges that we would face, in a state of suddenly being united and at some point unable to cope with this unity. Because you always need some guidance. There will also be challenges in 2027.

On artificial intelligence

And as for artificial intelligence, we focus a little bit on the fact that no matter how it overtakes us there, we begin to fear it, forming this danger.

What is artificial intelligence? It is the accumulation of human experience that he enjoys. Within the framework of his experience, he is unable to reproduce new experiences.

I don’t know if you know it or not, because I draw myself, and I know a painful subject. forbidden gram (note: Instagram), he now has the right, for example, to collect works of artists and put them into the artificial intelligence system, so that he then presented it as his own. And it’s not legally restricted at all, and it resents artists because it’s their copyright.

But we should not think so and so tremble before this topic. Any tool can become something in our hands depending on how we feel. But this is a very simple thing when an axe can cut wood and drown, or you can cut heads. So is artificial intelligence. We can’t help but act in the face of growing intelligence, too.

We will move on, and all technical innovations will have to be subordinated to a different idea. Once this idea exists, artificial intelligence works differently. Now we are going through the phase of this material, former systematic approach to artificial intelligence as a weapon against us. When we pass through this decision-making situation and the creative process, and the perception of our internal settings is reflected in the settings of internal intelligence, it will also act as a tool, not a competitor. He can’t compete with us. It does not have the spiritual content of the divine creative spark, because in fact it is embedded in us. And intelligence is a reflection of it. Yeah, we’ll move on. It will even have biological forms. It’s going to have, say, embedded DNA, if you will.

But now, if I say this, everyone will immediately be scared, say: “Oh, oh, oh, what a nightmare.” But the growth of our degree of ethics, it is very important, because then we can claim the right balance between what we have created in technical terms and who we are.

On the restructuring of consciousness

svetlana: As the energies are now changing, they will be very powerful to us, this leap of our consciousness will happen very quickly, instantaneously, and many will think that they have forgotten something, as if the memory of half has gone. And it will be everywhere, because this restructuring of consciousness, it will not be connected with the fact that he read something or heard something from someone. Yes, there are such calls when a person once – and this information took. And the information is not in the word, it’s in the code.

We have to understand that when we hear something, it is not a factor, so we have to remember and write it down. And we have to understand why we hear it, and then this information is coded into us. We are watching and watching some programs. And something like this… between the lines. And sometimes we can’t even hear someone’s voice. That’s what happens. Include, like the topic stated interesting, you can not listen, because it is not perceived. Not the code they call it. We’ll learn a lot. We learn that, for example, physiology, it is influenced by completely different forms of treatment, if you will, influences, codes, even numerical, water-related, crystallization of this water.

For example, I just want to say, of course, we look back all the time with such a funny irony. They were so naive, so smart. But really, like Ovicena, what was he doing? He took a telescope, pointed at a star, put water in the reflection of this telescope, water perceived the glow of this star, then he crystallized this water, and in these crystals there was a glow of this star as energy, because each star has its own energy. And knowing a person’s map, you can just fix them instantly with this charged code. That is, we do not even imagine the forms, influence, healing, improvement, upgrade of the soul and body that exist.

We’re very, I don’t want to say that we’re primitive, but we’re technologizing, we’re materializing, we’re clinging to this matter as if it’s going to save us from something, and we don’t understand how powerful technologies like optics are that can change temporal processes. There is so much interesting waiting for us here that this leap of consciousness, it must first create mandatory conditions for the ethics of using all knowledge and developments, and only then these opportunities that we will use.

Internal content is a special value

Interviewer: We see AI as a competitor that takes away our jobs, frees up jobs, takes to the streets and doesn’t know what to do with their lives.

And at this moment, a person who has lived for years in this way, in the day of today there is no question that this time was freed up in order to turn this gaze inside himself. And you say, you call it soulfulness, work with your spirituality. It is simply not clear how to approach this in today’s realities, in modern ones.

svetlana: We are now confronted at first with the fact that it seems to us that it gives us some tools, for the intellectual it is a primitive tool, for the artist it is a primitive tool. When, say, I see a picture, I realize that it was not a person who drew it, but artificial intelligence, its values are zero. But in order to understand this, it is necessary to have some experience in art or, say, in some other business.

And here very soon, well, we are now some patina-covered things, we appreciate them, we understand how great their value is, we are looking for them. I’m talking about some serious values that we suddenly realized. Just like this. Now we’re playing with it, it’s a toy. Someone is very profitable to intimidate us with everything: artificial intelligence, wars, diseases, something else. But it costs a lot of money. That means it makes sense. Man, without peace, in fear, cannot be a creator. He can only be afraid to use this intelligence, because suddenly he doesn’t know. Maybe intelligence will do better. Therefore, quality, inner content, it acquires special value in a person.

Because a person becomes a filter in order to choose, he created something or entrusted it to artificial intelligence, and this vulgar picture turned out.

Everything is very striking, they send me music, almost to my poems, and they say it is artificial intelligence. I hear it’s a fashion motif, and nothing. That is, we will learn to distinguish it, but in order to learn, we ourselves must be natural. There’s this godlikeness in us, it’s kind of an attempt to remove it from us. And we insist that we are the creators to be the creators. This is a word that’s already worn out and worn out, but it’s a state where you’re so not that unique, you have such a nature that you can tell it apart.

Therefore, there are many factors that require new questions from us. First of all, not to be afraid of this artificial intelligence. How do we use computers? Who is it? How are we without a computer now? It is also part of artificial intelligence. But we understand that we used it as a tool.

We will grow, we cannot stop. We cannot be Neanderthals and go into an age like this. There will be other forms of materialization. They will. But to get to these forms, it’s not by chance that we take these very strange steps. We must mature. Otherwise, who will give us the grenade?

The planets that will now reshape the Earth, nature, they, first of all, why do they affect brain activity? They are designed to restructure some of the processes of our thinking. And so these planets themselves are very painful in their ratio. Therefore, these states of depression, misunderstanding, fear, anxiety and some kind of withdrawal into oneself, so faint-hearted, they will also be the reverse side of the coin. It is. But if, after all, a person begins to believe in himself, and not in some uncle who will help him, or in some organization from which he will demand some money for himself, then the person really will have inner strength.

Events will come by themselves, they will form around people who are attracted to them. You don’t have to be super-young and some kind of strong, to pump powerfully for this to happen. This is an internal state of trust. Trust in everything and everyone. And this is not some kind of bliss, but you show this person your scale. You’re not afraid because you’re big. He could make a mistake and hit the wall of your generosity. To break not against your hardness, but against the wall of generosity, for it cannot break through. And he naturally confronts, as if he thinks that something bad was done to him there.

But when you give him chances, please take advantage, please, so to speak, you share your world, your energy. If she doesn’t match him, that’s fine too, he’ll find someone who matches. But we will see each other, feel not at the level of intellectual community, but at the level of some kind of intimacy of the soul.

I don’t know if you feel it or not, sometimes you meet a man and he quotes you and he says something, and you think what he says it for, what is it for, right? What’s in it? You want to find some grain in it, and you don’t see it. Sometimes a person says two words, and you think that’s the answer.

Alone.

Interviewer: You know, I’m seeing another paradox. Despite the fact that this year some exorbitant number of divorces, a lot of information about depressive states that have grown many times from loneliness, there are a lot of single people. And against this background, I see a huge demand from people for… I’m sorry, God, that sounds kind of corny. For soulful communication. The man says, here, I wanted to sit, I wanted to talk. We didn’t discuss anything like that, but just like we were sitting here, I really, really wanted it or wanted it.

And then in this connection, the question arises, what are those things on which it is very important to keep the focus of your attention and to develop, support and nurture them. And the next question is, what exactly?

svetlana: Well, this question of loneliness and the hasty search for someone to somehow close this topic. After all, people, when they are meaningful, they are not even afraid to be alone, because there is no sense of this loneliness, no fear of being alone. This is the first and most important option that will attract everything related to partnership. The planets that come in, they sort of separate each one and say, “Who are you?”

Partnership should not be based on someone having to lean on, and he closed some issues. And when you feel good with your content and with that person or group of people, everything will be based on shared interests, shared settings. We all think that it is necessary to unite by trade, by profession, but it is not a matter of profession, but a matter of some general internal orientation.

Stop being afraid.

And then either groups or partnerships are created. Perhaps the simplest and most seemingly banal answer is to stop being afraid, you just need to do something, you need to look at the world, look at how interesting and beautiful it is, catch meanings, not some event details, meetings, and you understand what is behind the feeling that some meeting brought you. Do you know what’s behind him? She brought you some inner twist in your feeling.

You have changed, and now other things will come to you. And you can feel the coming of these events even in the picture. You realize that suddenly, wow, the situation is different, and I have some opportunities. Or some block appeared, stood up like this, usually there is a planet that checks, says: “… listen, go back to yourself, double-check yourself, we now have to protect you a little from others, so that you deal with the issues of focusing attention on important things. You seem to be out of focus…”

That is, to perceive these signs not as punishment there, but on the contrary, an attempt to talk with you, external forces there, which we do not see, do not feel, the Subtle world, it also forms, in principle, event. Him. We just don’t understand it.

But when we understand that he speaks to us in the language of some external manifestations, people, sensations, we begin to perceive other circumstances or a person, whether he is good or good. He can turn to us in general, because all people turn to each other very different sides.

When we are told what he is, we can only test it through ourselves. So we turn to him with a good side, and he turns to us with it. I always say that our world is like this ball, which is made up of mirrors that are placed at a certain angle. And there’s a light falling on a mirror, it’s glowing, it’s not falling on a mirror, and it’s in the dark. That is, the reflection of light you carry, you reflect. What happens to you is a reflection of your true light.

Talk to yourself. Do not look for, say, some guilt in another. He reflected something inside you. So working with yourself is a very interesting story, it’s fascinating. And you see how the world around you begins to build in a different way, it speaks to you in a different language, other people, other events, circumstances, opportunities, prospects.

Changes in education

Interviewer: Last time we talked about what knowledge and how to pass on to children, and that this issue will be very acute in this and in the years to come. But you know what I’ve been paying attention to this year? It’s that certain education reforms are already taking place, and I’ve actually been alerted by some things.

When the program on literature was updated this year, and some things were isolated from it, for many it went unnoticed, but I drew attention to the fact that the topic of intergenerational relations, the formation of a person and the choice of his life path was excluded. What do you think about that? What do you see in this process?

svetlana: Almost summer. Until May, at least 2025, there is no need to talk about any real reforms, constructive and useful. It’s all about flippant, infantile approaches trying to make us even more infantile. I mean, all the stuff I’ve heard, They were maybe even with more progress in the hope that it would be progress.

All of them dealt with some more technical issues, as it is better, or some very strange things related to exams, with inspections. In general, utilitarianism, in general, some primitive approach. She didn’t surprise me because I knew there was nothing to wait for.

But with the arrival of summertime in 2025, a lot will begin to change. First, the question relationship to history, to natureWhat is really important as it is, The depth of the educational process will become the focus of attention..

Depth, the need to find other forms of immersion, say, in knowledge. By the way, very much nature-oriented. But this is not a key factor in education. Sometime in June 2025, we will hear some progressive forms of information perception.

We are used to going consistently, studying some things, these things, somehow then we build a memory for us, but it will not be like that. I can only assume that Very fast forms of perception of information, instant perception can appear.. But it won’t happen right away. First, it will be introduced a little in such a distorted form. Maybe some technology can be used in this. I don’t rule out being exotic that we might not like. But in 2026, all this is transformed into a completely different factor, into a different form of understanding, education and information saturation. The channels of knowledge consumption can be different. These may not necessarily be generally accepted textbooks that are the same for everyone. It’ll be something else.

It will be another form of perception of information by the brain. There will be other states that allow you to have this information. This will be the distribution of the speed of perception. And, say, the guides in which a person moves. Everything we are going to try to do now, at least until the summer of 2025, will not be productive. What happens next, starting in 2026, will change a lot. Its ability to perceive information quickly, globally, transmit it, communicate in a different way.

So now we only have the word. We can only exchange it, and we often lack it. We often realize that we want to pass on a fortune. We do not want to convey a linear sequence, but a general understanding of a process. Then there comes the detail.

On interaction with the subtle world

That is, it became difficult for us, we get tired, sometimes fall silent from fatigue and unwillingness to even tell something there. Notice that? And this problem will be solved by the fact that our form of perception, even intuitive, will give us more opportunities for such a holographic perception of information. That is, everything we do is an agreement that, yes, we communicate with this world in its language, it gives us the opportunity to perceive ourselves only within the framework of, say, this system, as if it were a computer embedded in it. What’s outside of this computer? You know what I’m talking about? So we’re still operating in this interface system, which doesn’t contain anything outside of this interface. Because we live in this computer system right here, and there’s somebody else sitting behind it, and there’s a whole world out there.

And now, in terms of categories like this, we’re going to go beyond this interface, which offers us only the material environment, only those forms of logic that we can control and perceive. That is, going outside of this environment will give us other options, and it will not be those buttons and those icons that we pressed all the time.

Interviewer: You’re talking about the sixth sense.

svetlana: We live within a certain world, classified, yes, that’s what it is. And we don’t understand how it works. We don’t understand our interaction with the subtle world that lies outside this interface. And this interaction with the subtle world is now emerging. Many people say that they see something, someone hears something. That’s the only kind of person that’s ever seen a mental asylum before, right? And now there are messages coming, right? But not some, but many already see it, understand that these are working things.

That is, our contact with the subtle world and it with us, this interpenetration is a very difficult process. Therefore, many even react to it depressingly, because it is not clear whether they are afraid of it or how to live with it. It requires an open mind, because we’re going to start to understand where things that we — well, where events come from, anything. Which we don’t understand. We put logic in there because our mother raised us that way, because we once did something. We don’t even know how time works. We don’t even realize that a matter of, say, traveling somewhere, traveling or achieving something is not a matter of linearity. This is a question of the code that exists. He has his own code address, and you can get inside.

Now it probably sounds very difficult to understand when we understand that the past and the present already exist, and it is like a single world, and for us it is time, because we need to get there. We will go on for centuries, but we will not get there in a linear way, because the penetration of knowledge and planets somewhere far away, for example, is not connected with the progressiveness of movements, with the methodicalness of achievement. It has to do with our body’s ability to brain and perception. So we are training him now, we are moving into this state.

Why do I say trust in myself, we talk about the soul? This is the first step towards the perception of this subtle world, contact with it. Having contact with him makes it possible to live alchemically.

Sometimes I myself, for example, get nervous, I think I should come and tell this person that he is wrong. Lights, stop! You know what you can do now… how would you think about it? The person will clearly feel that something needs to be rebuilt there. He doesn’t have to give it in words, he reacts to words… the information is so verbal, it touches him in a very strange way. So our brain, it’s a good tool, but it’s that keyboard or that interface button, that’s what the brain is. He says, Don’t go there, the computer runs out. You and I are only playing what is. We have such scripts, we have such a program.” So our programming can only exist within this computer.

Once we get to a level outside of that interface, we understand how everything is programmed there and there, and that there is a programmer who influences that computer. So we’re starting to see this whole environment. And it requires us to be calm, not afraid that someone is in charge.

Artificial intelligence is coming. Stay calm. It’s okay if you’re there. You are part of the creator who teaches himself to be that creator. Now we are moving to a new school, to a new education, but this requires strength, calmness, and trust in the time that is coming. And time, it’s going to filter out everything you need, all the people you need. And it doesn’t filter or kill anyone on purpose. Just the person resists it, physiology begins to suffer. Physiology and events are also part of rejection.

Therefore, as soon as a person does not resist, he perceives everything as a plan from above. Well, who we have, I always give an example, well, who is really wiser in our country, God or Trump? or someone who is with him, or someone in general. Everything happens with human hands. And Trump is also a historical actor in the new era. He will show many things that were wrong, that the path that is chosen there, what is his mistake. Each of us, making mistakes, is a textbook and an assistant. Once we accept this, the world ceases to be dual.

Forecast: March 2025 – February 2026

Interviewer: I would like to ask you to explain from the point of view of someone who is not a teacher, but a person who sees and feels, who knows a little more than maybe a certain number of people, to whom I also count myself, next year in terms of some milestones that will happen, and how they can and should probably be reacted to. It would be right to react in this way and not to behave in this way or, on the contrary, to do this way. Well, I don’t know, from January 2025 to December 2025.

svetlana: I would also suggest a different timeline. Probably since March. From March 2025 to February 2026.

That is, to understand that you need to be flexible, receptive, do not stand still, do not slow down, do not try to go into the past, analyze it, change it, and it no longer exists, this past. That is, to keep up with the times and understand that this is just this test.

First comes this test factor, when nature itself begins to speak, people, come together, you have values, you will see it all.

– The first step is spring.Many things seem to create chaos, and even Russia has no options to understand what is happening.

– The second step is from spring, summer, autumn. This is a global change with the inclusion of the first trial versions of technical, metaphysical. We will see some miracles in the sky, we will start digging where we have never digging technologically. We will encounter new forms of the Earth itself. We need to build the economy somehow. And we have nothing, no tools.

Take your time. Just go. Believe that you just have to keep up, not be afraid. These times will pass very soon.

And this feeling of chaos should not be frightening. People are looking for where to go to hide from disasters. It doesn’t matter where you go. It’s a matter of internal state. You can be in the epicenter, you will not be offended.

But it is clear that many will return, perhaps even to Russia, because the attraction of these values, the attraction of something beyond this logic. Not in the sense of hiding there is better, the government is worse, but in the sense of a kindredness of some internal.

People are trying to save money, people are trying to save something somewhere. The issue of accumulation and everything related to accumulation, I am afraid, will not work at all. Everything has to be in motion. Moving and updating are part of next year’s condition.

It is flexibility, renewal, new thinking and the absence of fear, especially the fear of loneliness. Not fighting your own thoughts, which your brain will dictate there when you can’t, has never happened before. It’s different. Life is so diverse that we’ve never seen it like this. It’s a really unique time. This is the time of change, the initial stage. 2024 has collapsed, 2025 is rapidly beginning to rebuild, but has not yet rebuilt. We don’t see anything created. We are only seeing the preparations for this creation.

The autumn of 2025 begins, when we understand that everything has been uprooted, everything from the previous life, which was very much updated Russian reality. Its position in the geopolitical coordinate system, the decline of America’s dominant role and the redistribution of power in this geopolitical landscape are completely changing.

The most important stepThere, of course, autumn will be very important, in 2025, which seems to make it so that we hoped that everything would move, but we have nothing, nothing got. There’s some devastation around here, right? It’s not a fact that this is devastation. It’s not a fact that this is devastation. It’s just part of a scenario that will have to basically finish itself off around February 2026. Here the test of strength is more radical, the alignment of forces, after which there will be no more fluctuations in the other direction. Those geographical points that will fluctuate there and will be unstable in every sense of the word, they will no longer stabilize.

Accepting that you’re going to have to live in a new world, and you just have to be flexible. If you have talents, abilities, performance, you do not need to be young and with a lot of strength. You can recreate some of the things that will give you life. And only after some February events of 2026 and beyond, we will see the horizon of a new life. It is also not quite stable there, because the entire restructuring will take place there until 2028. Well, basically. But these global processes, especially terrestrial ones, because nature will act according to different laws, and, of course, this will affect everything. Well, naturally, we’re part of nature, and we’re not separate from it. So, of course, we will have a different relationship with space, with other civilizations, if you will.

That is, we are being prepared to expand our consciousness to the realization that one does not have to be so naive as to think that we are the creators of nature and the river turning back, there is no one else in this world. Nope. We just have to understand and realize that our entry into the new cosmic realities presupposes a different humanity. Space realities and new information unique things will be fully revealed in 2026. We will understand what education is.where we have to go, What are the forms of equalityAnd that it has nothing to do with Schwab’s ideas, and that’s a different form. And there we start to see some horizon of understanding, oh, that’s it, we tell ourselves. So this is the year 2025, we’re on a train that changes pictures, it shakes, but we’re going.

The power to accept and understand what is happening

Interviewer: The only thing I would ask you to focus on, because I understand and feel very well the people who receive this forecast, it at first glance looks not just alarming, it looks frightening. And a certain number of people, having already heard the harbingers of this forecast, began to move to other lands, to leave large megacities. I would like to hear your words here as some kind of antidote to this disturbing and terrible one, which will give exactly this stability, which we talked about at the very beginning of our interview.

svetlana: I think that when we have always fought for some truth, we are the masters of life, and if we want to be the masters of life, we must understand that each of us is its master.

And the master when his thoughts and creative position and opportunities arise only in the inner, I do not say such calmness and indifference, just self-confidence. Calm in the sense that you understand what is happening. Just understand. Don’t, I don’t know, break down, do something urgent, dig. That won’t help. Change profession, rebuild, sell the house. Yes, yes, yes, everything will come. If you agree, you agree on an internal level. When a person understands how this world order is, he immediately, this world reaches out to him. He says you’re mine, I know you agreed with me, you don’t mind. It’s just that you don’t mind this message, this impulse, even energetically.

It is clear that it is difficult to change their worldview, especially for those who are part of the system. Especially those who are the software of this system. I often meet people of very high rank, senior rank. they cannot hear, they seem to be very erudite, they do not perceive at all. And this is part of this disturbing category of people who can’t take anything outside of their rules. But when you’re free from these rules, you can, of course, flirt with this system, pretend that you have something to do with it, even though, in principle, everything is very readable. All thoughts are read. And this is the internal perception of what’s going on, what you’re reflecting, what’s going on in your life, and the sense of yourself. Straight, I would say, you have to sit down and feel who you are, what you are, that the world is you, that it is his hands, the world is his hands.

This feeling of yourself as part of this world, it creates another energy in a person, it creates a protective canvas, and a canvas of such radiance and brightness that you just … You absorb space with your brightness. You match the energy that comes in. She’s like that. This correspondence comes from the human experience.

So without fuss, without trying to throw, invest somewhere, or not invest, or bring up someone terrible. Just trusting that children are our future is a new generation in which everything is built. She will live there wiser than we imagine. We are not so wise that now our child will be rebuilt there according to our own truth. Maybe he hears more, knows more. That is, trust in partners, children and the world. You just have to do it. Part of your strength, not your weakness.

Interviewer: It’s not a prophecy, it’s a toast now. This is the moment when you can make a choice. There has been a lot of talk about him recently. But this is really the moment when a person makes a choice in favor of feeling like this creator, and feeling himself in this process of co-creation, and understanding how great the plan was, when every person, no matter where and where he is, was created and brought into this world.

svetlana: That’s the time.

Interviewer: That’s the time. Just understand it and feel it. Perhaps no one had that choice. At least for my grandparents and parents, I don’t remember having such feelings that we are discussing now.

svetlana: I don’t think the weak have been brought here, so, Those who live here today are pretty strong people who have a chance to just ascend to the sky. With huge, I mean in a good way, right in the body, become much bigger. The body is rebuilt too, so it’s a good time.

Interviewer: It is a good time for us to strive for a bright future, locally trying to build some cities and civilizations, and now is the very moment when you can really, starting with yourself, build this beautiful bright civilization within yourself and try to see it here on Earth, while being. Thank you, Light. I very much hope that in our small talk, the people who watched and listened to us, and tuned in to your wave, managed to feel exactly what I felt. Because you were absolutely right: “Words are important.” But there’s a lot of meaning between the lines. And I thought it was.

I hope you, my dear friends, think so too. And in the coming 2025, whatever happens outside the windows of your rushing train, you will always return to this state. I am incredibly grateful to you for bringing this light and for enabling people from this point of calm, accepting the significance of the moment, to see this happening and be prepared for it.

svetlanaThank you, Ira. Thanks.