“Truth without hype” - interview for Irina Muromtseva channel

“Truth without hype” - interview for Irina Muromtseva’s channel

A text transcript of the interview

Svetlana: Spring, starting in March, will present a completely different course of events. This is just such an upgrade, which has not been in our earthly lands for a long time. Our message from within and our honesty with ourselves is practically a road to easier options for living. this life. Cleansing occurs at all levels, and even what we considered normal, good, suddenly turns to us completely differently. You can rely only on yourself, on your quality, on your independence. We need to hurry to adapt to this future, which 2025 will give us in such portions, at such speeds, that we will only need to have time to understand, adapt and accept these new processes.

Interviewer: Svetlana Dragan is an astrologer, a long-standing practitioner in the field of palmistry, physiognomy, a writer, an expert in the field of geopolitical and economic forecasting. For about 30 years, she has been studying and analyzing the influence of stars not only on the destinies of people, but also countries in the general civilizational context.

Svetlana declared herself an astrologer back in 2000, and in 2009 her economic and geopolitical forecasts became popular. In 2014, Dragan published a book, “Your Own Executioner. How to Save and Improve Your Life,” where Svetlana analyzed a complex of ancient anthropological knowledge, using which a person can avoid conflicts with cosmic algorithms and nature, but on the contrary, gain the opportunity to live in peace.

Many of Dragan's predictions in recent years have proven prophetic. But, of course, it is not only her ability to foresee the course of events that is of interest, but also to point out those things that are hidden between the lines. They become a kind of transcription and translation of what this eventfulness means for people in general and for a person in particular. What lessons can each of us learn and what can we rely on in a rapidly changing world?

What is beauty?

Interviewer: Svetochka, I ask all my heroes this question, but with special trepidation, of course, I want to know the answer to it from you. This channel is called “About beauty”. What is beauty to you?

Svetlana: You know, Irochka, over the years, when some experience of perceiving a person appears, Beauty as a complex concept arises immediately when you see a person.

It's not a question of style, not a question of age, but a question of some kind of extraordinary illumination from a person. This is important to me. And moreover, when this is covered by some external effects, a moment of doubt in beauty arises. That is, the more natural, the better. Maybe I don't fit this concept myself, but I perceive it this way.

Interviewer: You know, I'd be interested to find out in our conversation now how many there will be next year, in 2025 and beyond. And next year interests me very much, because everyone calls it a special year. How many of these people will there be? And what will need to be done to ensure that this inner glow is not blocked by anything? As far as I understand, there are more moments that throw light on people now than ever before.

Svetlana: I think that the transparency of perception will be greater.

Well, let's say, by the number of people. It's just that the perception, the feeling of each other will be so clearly expressed that the contrast will be obvious.

Interviewer: Let's talk about this. You are on the channel about beauty. And today my heroine. The woman I love very much, I value very much. Astrologer Svetlana Dragan. Sveta, hi.

Svetlana: Thank you very much for coming. Ira, thank you for inviting me. I am very glad to see you. I know that you are a very cool interviewer, and it is very easy to open up with you.

Interviewer: Thank you very much. But I hope that our conversation today will be another discovery. And not only for me, but for the entire audience, for all the people who are watching this interview, because every time I talk to you, I feel these things in myself, a new layer and a new angle of view opens up.

And this is not just an opportunity to look beyond the horizon, as we call it, but it is also an opportunity to look inside yourself and discover certain depths there.

2024 Results. What Was It Like

I want to start our conversation with 2024, because it was not just a leap year and difficult. There is even a popular saying. This is 2024. It really was unpleasant from different points of view. The Olympics were the most scandalous, Eurovision was the most scandalous, the scandalous elections in America, a huge number of scandalous divorces, and so on. I understand that every coin has two sides. And someone calls it a purge. How do you look at the results of this year that is ending? About everything that happened for you.

Svetlana: We assumed that it would be like this, it is really destructive for the previous points of view of the systems, the worldview in general, and so on.

It should be, was revealing and really scandalous, when this revelation does not immediately determine the camps and put everything in place. This is the moment when purification occurs at all levels, and even what we considered normal, good, suddenly turns to us completely differently. This transparency is sideways, it is always given painfully. Well, in all spheres it looked like this.

And then I talked a lot about issues of partnership, both at the global level and at the private one. And suddenly this partnership, when we saw both business partners and personal partners from some other side, may be disappointing. Maybe we were in a state of illusion, and then it somehow gave us such miracles.

That is, yes, the polarization of both society and understanding, and, in general, when we say "cleansing", that is, this is such a feeling that there is someone good and someone bad. There is a world that combines everything - acceptance and the understanding that relationships are, probably, a reflection of our ideas about this. Here we, probably, got the result of all this.

I know that everyone has their own story, and they are completely exclusive, I would say, exotic, so there is a lot to talk about there. But we even see how all this looks on the global level, because the issue of relationships is a question of both law and the rules that we establish among ourselves. And when these rules are formal, when they are only for some completely different purposes, and not for universal human ones, they completely stop working. This is happening in all areas.

The departure of the old system. Why it is important to be self-sufficient

Interviewer: Partnership is one thing, but when we met, it was in July 2023, you said that 2024 and 2025 will be the time of the collapse of the old system, which is aimed at infantilism and is built on such directiveness, so to speak. And that the next two years, that is, this outgoing 2024 and the next 2025, are precisely a test of independence. Here, from your observations, how are the tests developing, who passes them, who doesn't?

Svetlana: We were just talking about partnership. In partnership, it's good when each partner contains something, some kind of integrity. And this is not a question of a crutch to lean on another partner, but a question of some kind of parity, mutual weight. And this, probably, has become a big problem for many. Therefore, I consider 2024 as the most... I don't experience it as the most unpleasant. Personally, I do. All years are good in their own way. But it is very difficult.

2025 will be completely different. But this departure of the system and the unpreparedness of many for this, and suddenly such an unpleasant feeling that there is nothing to rely on. All systems, all rigid frameworks are destroyed. And so you can rely only on yourself, on your quality, on your independence. This is not a question of such independence, of some kind of leadership. This is a question of self-sufficiency. And when the system cannot help you, you cannot hold on to it like a solid pillar, and you can rely only on yourself in all your choices in life. And then you feel stable. If you rely on what was promised to you, on some kind of stability, it no longer works.

On partnership and independence

Interviewer: Sveta, I want you here... After all, this is an important story for me, because 2024 really became a test for me. for the strength of my personal partnership. And now we are talking about partnership and independence. And these are two seemingly opposing false things. Independence implies something like “I am alone, I know what to do, I rely entirely on myself,” while partnership, on the contrary, means “I can rely on my partner.” What is important here, in your opinion? And I understand that this didn’t just happen in 2024, and we passed through, we are going to the next stations in 2025, and it will be different there. No, this is a bridge there. And this is a very important thing that needs to be focused on. What would you focus on if we are talking about this?

Svetlana: We were talking about directiveness, that is, independence – this is some kind of leadership, this is some kind of taking on leadership, it even looks like some kind of competition. We talk about independence as a scale of personality, as acceptance of everything, when you can give room for maneuver to your partner. This is also a quality of self-sufficiency, when you do not demand something that you lack from another person, when you are ready to accept what seems very important to you in this person, to consider it. You cannot deceive yourself, you cannot blindfold yourself and say, well, after all, I need status, well, in the end, I need a man, and if I have a man, then I am self-sufficient.

No, it should be an easy feeling of partnership, when you do not need social conditions, some external factors, the status of your partner.

When there is something that makes you complete, complements your completeness. This is not a question of leadership, this is not a question of taking on this bag, loading it and carrying someone along. This is really when the qualities are internal, they correspond to the person next to you.

This does not mean that two strong people took it upon themselves and just push the ship forward. These can be completely different people. But this is transparency of understanding, the absence of self-deception. and true partnership. Here is the future, it is not based on the passions of love. Yes, oddly enough, people will become much calmer. The feeling of human beauty, we even talked about this at the beginning, it is not only an external factor, it must also be very complementary internally.

And when we see this beauty complex in a person, sometimes he can be silent and seem weak to someone. But these are all very relative concepts. Sometimes such a person can take on a lot at a time when it is difficult for another. That is, this is a flexible concept. It has no strict boundaries and is certainly not determined by social positions.

On relationships with children

Interviewer: An important point that we are discussing now, because our last conversation was also devoted to relationships with our children. We talked a lot about upbringing, about how our perception of ourselves, of ourselves, will be reflected in our children.

Quote: We have our children, and if we talk to them, we even listen to what he thinks about this. Let him train his vision, his vision, and let it be encouraged, and not driven into the framework of some generally accepted things, concepts. That is, develop the ability to think independently, without paying attention to some generally accepted paths, solutions.

Interviewer: And this year I see a visual unpacking of your words. Children become as if different, and when you don't have a core inside, this independence, confidence, you don't stand firmly on your own principles, understandings of how to live, how to build relationships with other people, And as if children are even stronger than partners or anyone else, they reflect this to you.

Svetlana: But they are more natural. They have a different firmware. This firmware has not yet been revealed. And when this difference in firmware, let's call it, maybe it sounds technical, but nevertheless we understand what is behind it. When the parent himself has such a magnitude inside to be confident in his child.

I am not saying this like that, not empty words. I am a mother myself, and I have an adult son. I have always followed this rule, because if you trust him, he understands internally that he is responsible. That he is not secondary here and does not behave for the sake of evaluation, but he is natural. And then he shows both independence and care, and understands simply without words, understands that he bears some responsibility for all this. We must listen to what is embedded in them, they will live in the future.

And this future, running ahead, the restructuring of this future, right at such an even organic-natural level, on some other code, will begin to manifest itself by the spring of 2025. This is such a powerful restructuring, in general, both civilizational, and biological, and natural. Well, here is a full complex of everything. It's just that we ourselves, when we were children, we didn't even know who we would be, really. When something is revealed, we become adults, we open up some opportunities for ourselves, and suddenly it becomes clear who we really are.

So it is here. Those children who came, they are our future. Those children who came are the guarantee of that future, in which I, for example, really believe.

And I believe that this nature, this absence of that same old directive logic that we talked about, that you need to do it this way, logic sometimes looks like a barrier that prevents you from hearing your true self, your true partner, if you will. When we remove this, we remove this barrier, this curtain, and suddenly we begin to feel. And this feeling does not deceive us. And this naturalness of sensation, when the soul is a priority, I am not accidentally saying this, this gives birth to a completely different contact between people. It is impossible to deceive each other. Transparency arises. We talked about how we meet a person and suddenly begin to feel. He can be so beautiful, dressed so well, and everything about him is so wonderful, and we feel falsehood, a lie, something is distorted there. And there's no way to hide it.

And these children, they can feel it more than we can. That's why they understand that something is wrong with the discomfort we cause them with our rules, but they can't explain it to us yet, and some of them, apparently, already can. We need to hurry to adapt to this future, which 2025 will give us in such portions, at such speeds, that we will only need to have time to understand, adapt and accept these new processes.

2025 - the year of honesty with yourself

Interviewer: Then it turns out that if 2024 is it was still a year of partnership, in part, yes, then 2025 is just about being honest with yourself.

Svetlana: Identification of partnership, not partnership, but what in our understanding it is. what concepts were introduced, were false, were established rules.

Soon the rules will change at all levels, both human and international law, because the redistribution of this landscape, this geopolitical and human, it brings us to a new atmosphere with which we are not familiar. And in order to get to know it, to put aside all unnecessary ideas about partnership, about the rules of relationships, 2024 arranged this test for us. And many people have faced the fact that, it would seem, the relationships that were so idyllic, suddenly, in general, moved into a completely different phase. Therefore, perhaps, 2024 was the year of revealing whether we are ready for those conditions of the rule, including social ones, brought in, or we should play by other rules.

And now 2025, in connection with its renewal even at the level of brain activity, Maybe, I don’t know if I noticed it or not, many psychological states reach the extreme, because the processes of perception are being rebuilt, the processes of stable cliches that will dissolve, and now there is only just a premonition of this. This is not yet what will happen.

Since March 2025, the structure of water is changing

Therefore, everything that is connected, this is even at the level of health, because we generally consist largely of water. And water is a carrier of information. It codes it, it brings it into us and unpacks it, as they say now. And the structure of water changes.

Since March, it will change so much in several stages that our body, our perception, all the systems that seemed unshakable to us, they must become, on the one hand, flexible, give us a chance for some range of possible perception. We did not perceive it. But, on the other hand, understand that we are responsible for our choice, for this range. This is the question, we say all the time, we must think about someone, because this is our task. In order to think about someone, you need to contain something in yourself. In order to give someone something, you need to have it. And the task of having it inside is not egoism. This is the solvency that you can offer to someone. And if you do not have it, then it is more difficult. that's the whole story.

Transition and search for your identity

Interviewer: Since we are all the same as people made of water and, perhaps, do not notice, but still feel these changes that are happening to us from within. Nevertheless, many of us probably come into some kind of contradiction with ourselves, because we say and think mainly what flies into our heads from existing systems, and what we constantly mix and pronounce in our heads. And here it is as if two opposing things collide from within. How then, with the help of those processes of a cosmic order that are happening, can we survive in this internal confrontation?

Svetlana: Well, in general, everything moves in order, that is, there are no instant transformations, some test modes are taking place.

Literally at the end of November, there will be such a transition to a completely different energy state, where the systemic approach itself, where all this density, it begins to collapse, giving us opportunities. giving us some form of freedom, a completely different energy. We will see this at different levels. For us, energy is everything, money is also energy. And even in this, at this level, we will begin to see the start of changes that no longer work as centralization, as dictation from some center that tells us how to behave. And this originality and the search for your own originality in yourself, without any copying from someone, this becomes a priority quality.

Of course, when such a transition happens, at first people can be in confusion.

Natural processes will also be confused, because such a restructuring is like a transition to another quality, it pulls many things along with it. including, of course, natural things. Yes, we will see that we cannot allow ourselves to count on some financial promises that have always been there, we were somehow guaranteed and so on.

Something will force us to look for these forces in ourselves and to look for our truth. Honesty with ourselves and with ourselves. There is no other way out. Honesty. As soon as such a compromise occurs somewhere, at the event level it will simply throw a person out, throw him out of the field of possibilities. He will feel that something is happening to his body that is not right, because this is resistance to biological progress.

After all, we talked about water, it already contains within itself the form of a certain relationship, say, not with some system, country, but with space, if you like. There is a certain accountability to space, so to speak, its own rules. And this word "space" will manifest itself at all levels. This will be a question of truly new energies, this will be a question of space, as an interest in it. It will be like the freedom to find yourself in such a free space. How to balance in it, if you are in a vacuum? Or you just fly, and you have no weight. That is, the absence of the previous guarantee of weight, which was given to everything, by shoulder straps, status, anything, does not work. We see how the system began to destroy all these status options, whether someone likes it or not.

How to fight this? Believe in yourself, believe in what your intuition tells you, if you like, it is true. What the rule tells you, that you need to do this, and you will go and solve problems with some external tools, this will not be solved. You just said it yourself about the idea. When you already form an understanding in your thoughts that you are right, that such a situation will soon happen, it will begin to show itself quite quickly the situation, that it is true and consists of your feelings, your thoughts, reflections of your emotions. And if there are positive thoughts, it would seem that all this enthusiasm is so invented, but in the soul it is bad, this will not work either.

That is, we must understand that our feeling, our internal state, even from relationships, from interaction, if we tune ourselves to understanding, maybe to some generosity, if we lack something. We still give our temporary interlocutor or partner a chance to manifest themselves. We send him energy, which he reflects. If we send him mistrust, he will reflect mistrust. That is, our message from within and our honesty with ourselves is practically a road to easier options for living this life. It will be obvious. But there are people who have such rigid attitudes that it will simply be very difficult for them.

And this inner flexibility, the understanding that fate, events are telling you something, they reflect your thoughts, this will be the guideline that, if you understand this, you are calm, you will see this return all the time. The return from that state and your truthfulness, even human irresistibility, this inner magnetism. when it is pleasant to communicate with a person, when you understand that something is coming from it that you want to continue it. And this is the path that leads us to a new understanding of relationships, and ourselves, and building the world.

You don't have to think that you need to find some new profession tomorrow. This will be suggested later, it will come, because the changes that nature will present to us, which will now lead the processes, and not some person, and not some country. All this is going away. It will change and show us a lot, and maybe even in a harsh form.

New course of events from spring 2025

Interviewer: What will happen? And when will it start, if it hasn't started already?

Svetlana: Of course, we already see these prerequisites now, because understanding how astrology works, it should always be on the exact date? When global processes operate, and they are controlled by the so-called distant trans-Saturnian planets, they do not come in one day just like that. They have a rather long time span of influence. But if we talk about the most global processes step by step, important ones, then, probably, right now we are completing this destructive process, nothing works, in any spheres and so on. And spring, starting in March, it will present a completely different course of events. It will not be guided by the decisions of political leaders or anyone. Nature will be renewed very powerfully.

This is just such an upgrade. which, in fact, I have not been in our earthly lands for a long time, and not only in earthly, but also in cosmic ones. This is happening at all levels. And naturally, the leading factor will be water, this is the water element. But this is a very complex process, because we are talking about the shift of the poles, we are talking about changing the contours of various continents, if you like, a shift in climate.

And don't think that any of the people here will figure out how to fight this. But this is in no way connected with the greenhouse effect, with the amount of human intervention in nature. This is the process we have come to, this is time. It was planned a long time ago, there is no escape from it. There is a restructuring, let's say, of all magnetic fields, even physical laws, if you like. Much in physics will stop working.

All these sciences that we have, they can first enter into such a contradiction, how is it possible, nothing works. And then it will become clear that even the laws of physics, they are dynamic, they are not static. We had such a matrix grid at least of the Earth. That is, we practically had no options to choose from. Here, when we talk about directiveness, that is, we acted as we were told, we had no doubts that this was right and that was not right, because there are truisms, and so we told them..

And here, indeed, very few people could act flexibly and express themselves so independently that society would not eat them up later. We saw such people who ended up somewhere on the outskirts, or left, remained some kind of geniuses, but were not recognized in everyday life. Now it's a different story.

This plasticity of choice at all levels. Social, psychological, any. It is welcomed. And what is happening now with the natural environment, with the possibilities of time, which is beginning to behave differently, people must correspond to them. Their internal, let's say, worldview is like a guarantee that they fit into this world.

If there is no such understanding, then there is resistance, an attempt to impose their rules, which were, but that's it, it's gone, it doesn't work. It begins to destroy everything, both the body, and the systems that are nearby, and the people who are nearby, because it doesn't fit.

And those natural processes that will occur, many territories will simply be flooded with water. Something, on the contrary, will emerge and open up. Somewhere there will be lava, somewhere there will be an earthquake, and somewhere there will be water. But water, as a factor of reprogramming, will be dominant at all levels. Moreover, it will acquire completely different properties that we have not seen before, which may seem like ice, despite the fact that it will remain in a completely normal temperature regime.

All the planets are moving. This is both a form of communication and the perception of information. The energy that we first, let's say, we used energy systems that required certain mechanisms and so on, wires and so on. All this is becoming a thing of the past. Not immediately. But in order to take this step, we will face the fact that we need to rebuild the management system, the internal management system, the distribution of duties, responsibilities and so on.

That is, all those state systems that were. They will be are subjected to categorical restructuring, categorical. When you look at Russia and see what will happen, especially after the spring, from summer to autumn 2025, I don’t remember such a number of restructuring steps.

And these are radical things. And if somewhere we tried to patch something up a little bit, restructure something, rearrange some roles, take some mini-steps, then the old system will simply be uprooted. I don’t know how correct it is to say this here, but management structures, for example, in Russia, starting from June and until autumn 2025, will be restructured categorically. This is a renewed team at all levels, this is a renewed form of regional management in general.

When will it seem in the summer that this is just something like this, it will be something like this, no. By autumn, this will definitely be such a powerful radical restructuring that it will be clear that Russia has changed. And why? Because in this global plan, Russia must become a flagship. A flagship for building a new world. And this world is supposed to be multipolar, of course, decentralized. It cannot be any other way.

Of course, this will not happen right away, but nevertheless, we will see a lot. We will see how the Middle East will change as a result of very difficult geopolitical clashes, transformations, and so on. Everything will be gradual, but everything is moving towards Russia having time to restructure itself, to be able to set this tone for everyone, so that there is somewhere to move, because different things can happen outside of Russia.

And Russia itself too, it will not escape these natural disasters. And it may very well be that we will even have some completely different navigation, river or sea. Here is a feeling that some territories may be flooded, and in general we will even have to think about how we will carry out logistics to such an extent.

About global natural processes

Interviewer: We are talking about 2025, that is, the climate changes that you just talked about are 2025.

Svetlana: The first inclusion of these natural processes in a global form, as a test of the first run, is spring, but basically there is March around 2025. This is, as it were, an attempt to carry out such a calibration, who will enter the new world, how it will all be. How the human body has adapted or not, what needs to be adjusted to this. But the final, this is no longer a draft, but a final copy, this will be written, written down already in February 2026.

This is the final phase of one of the most important factors in the restructuring of natural processes. There will be no turning back after this. If, say, in March some fluctuations are still possible, someone did not have time for something, did not understand, did not decide on something, then there are still some options here. But from February 26th, therefore, perhaps these changes in Russia, they will occur in such a dynamic mode, so that by 2026 they will have time to take on a certain non-dominant, not the role of a dictator, but the role of a unifying factor, the role of a new ideological leader. This is not the right word either.

The idea and the worldview, even some religious spheres - it's all one to some extent. And when the moment of human naturalization comes, After all, Russia, in general, everything that is connected with Russia, is what supports, well, the only place, probably, that is still so naturalized and supports this idea, holds it on itself.

Everything that is based on transhumanism, on all the derivatives of this transhumanism, It, of course, will fail, and this is not necessarily there directly. This is impossible, this is impossible. This will be demonstrated by nature and everything else. And here is the factor of the need to think about yourself, to think about what is most important - material values ​​or this internal potential that exists, which is capable of alchemically providing these material values ​​for itself. Well, I don’t know if it’s clear what I’m saying or not, but we’re going to see a very large degree of transformation, and America (editor’s note: North America) will probably be very affected by it. It feels like America will also split into two parts, or at least it won’t be a single continent anymore, and so on.

And everything that’s connected with the hopes for Trump, that he will bring something now, But this is an illusion, because Trump and all forms of the idea of ​​capitalization, they won’t work if they don’t integrate completely different human values. For Trump in the spring, things won’t be very easy either. But if he manages to survive all this, there will be some chance to continue his activities, but only if he can transform himself, because the idea of ​​such egoism and centralization of power, such about the materialistic, pragmatic approach, the business approach, as the dominant, it will be a self-destructive idea. It's not that anyone will punish him.

We now see that there are circumstances stronger than the decisions that leaders make. Human leadership does not work now in that form. It can work in the version when a person corresponds to the formats we talked about.

How to become useful to the world?

Interviewer: Sveta, you know, we also talked about this. You are now reinforcing your words, said a little over a year ago, that a person, this paradigm that comes into its own in 2024 and develops further in 2025: a person must be useful to this world. Then, of course, I want to ask you what this main benefit should be, what do you mean and how should a person feel useful against the backdrop of artificial intelligence nipping at his heels. Where is this main human component?

Svetlana: It is impossible, let's say, to assume that if there is no this inner fulfillment of each person, that society can be somehow fulfilled and so on, you can be useful, if again you have something to bring there, some benefit. When you have developed this in yourself, you can give something. This balance is not of the ego, but of the real inner content, take care of it. This is a prerequisite. Then you are already doing a lot for the world, because you can be asked for help, because you can give something. But if you can only give your weakness and just some declarations, we have already seen this. That is, it does not work, and will not work anymore. Therefore, of course, the question is primarily about the feeling of "I am". "I am". That is, it is not a profession. It is a state of mind.

And when it is, the soul will call to you all those forms, even professional ones. Self-expression, absolutely. Creativity is not just a question of singing, writing, drawing. It is a question of when you create your world around you. when you create people who are close to you, because those who correspond to you are attracted.

We ourselves now notice how the worlds have become very different, and sometimes we do not even touch the contour of another world, we see it and are surprised, it turns out that it exists, and people somehow live. I even think that such clusters of worlds will be organized, and even the financial system will partly correspond to this clustering. This is a form when you are in the financial orbit to which you correspond.

You can move to another orbit, and this is not a format of social growth, your status, some kind of that was attributed to you, you have no education, you took a leadership role. This does not work anymore.

But it will be so. Not right away. Because I made predictions, frankly speaking, almost until 2028 and saw a lot of challenges that we will face, in a state of sudden unity and at some point the impossibility of coping with this unity. Because some kind of leadership is always needed. And there will still be challenges in 2027.

About artificial intelligence

As for artificial intelligence, we focus a little on the fact that no matter how it overtakes us, we begin to fear it, creating this danger.

And what is artificial intelligence? It is the accumulation of human experience that it uses. Within the framework of the experience that is embedded in it, it is not able to reproduce new experience.

I don’t know if you know or not, because I draw myself, and I know a painful topic. the forbidden gram (note: Instagram), it now has the right, for example, to collect the works of artists and put them into the artificial intelligence system, so that it can then present it as its own. And this is not limited in any legal way, and this outrages the artists, because this is their copyright.

But we should not think like that and tremble so much before this topic. Any tool can become something in our hands depending on how we feel. But this is a very simple thing, when you can chop wood and heat wood with an axe, or you can chop off heads. So is artificial intelligence. We cannot help but act in the conditions of our growing intelligence too.

We will move on, and all technical innovations will have to be subordinated to another idea. As soon as this idea exists, then artificial intelligence works differently. Now we are going through the phase of this material, former systematic approach to artificial intelligence, as a weapon against us. When we pass this directive situation and the creative process, and the perception of our internal settings will be reflected in the settings of the inner intellect, it will also act as a tool. and not a competitor. It cannot compete with us. It does not have the spiritual content of the divine creative spark, because in fact it is embedded in us. And the intellect is a reflection of it. Yes, we will go further. It will even have biological forms. It will have, say, an embeddedness even in DNA, if you like.

But now, if I say this, everyone will immediately get scared, they will say: "oh-oh-oh, what a nightmare." But the growth of our degree of ethics, it is very important, because then we can claim the correct ratio of what we have created in technical terms, and who we are. intellect reflects artificial now, right now it reflects our failure in ethical formats.

On the restructuring of consciousness

Svetlana: Since energies will change now, they will be given to us very powerful ones, this leap in our consciousness will happen very quickly, instantly, and many will think that they have forgotten something, as if half of their memory has flown away. And this will be everywhere, because this restructuring of consciousness, it will not be connected with the fact that he read something or heard something from someone. Yes, there are such calls, when a person once - and perceived this information. And the information is not in the word, but in the code.

We must understand that when we hear something, it is not a factor, so we must remember and write it down. And we must understand why we hear it, and then this information enters us in a coded way. And now we are watching, watching some programs. And something is just like that... between the lines. And sometimes we can't even hear someone's voices. This happens. You turn it on, the topic seems interesting, but you can't listen, because it is not perceived. Not the right code, so to speak. We learn a lot. We learn that, for example, physiology is affected by completely different forms of treatment, if you will, impact, codes, even numerical ones. associated with water, crystallization of this water.

For example, I just want to say, of course, we always look into the past with such an ironic laugh. They were so naive, so smart. But in fact, for example, Ovitsen, what did he do? He took a telescope, pointed it at a star, put water in the reflection of this telescope, the water perceived the glow of this star, then he crystallized this water, and in these crystals there was the glow of this star as energy, because each star has its own energy. And knowing the map of a person, you can simply heal him instantly with this charged code. That is, we do not even imagine those forms, influence, healing, improvement, upgrade of the soul and body that exist.

We are very, I do not want to say that we think primitively, but we technologize everything, we materialize everything, we hold on to this matter, as if it will save us from something. and we do not understand how powerful technologies are, for example, those associated with optics, which can change time processes. There are so many interesting things waiting for us here, that this leap in consciousness must first create for us the mandatory conditions for the ethics of using all knowledge and developments, and only then these opportunities that we will use.

Inner content is a special value

Interviewer: We consider artificial intelligence as a competitor that takes away our work, jobs are being freed up, people are going out into the streets and do not understand what to do with their lives.

And at this moment, a person who has lived like this for years, in today's day, does not have a question that this time has been freed up in order to turn this gaze inward. And you say, you call it soulfulness, to work with your spirituality. It is just not clear how to approach this in today's reality, in modern times.

Svetlana: Now at first we are faced with the fact that it seems to us that he gives us some tools. For an intellectual this is a primitive tool, for an artist this is a primitive tool. When, for example, I see some picture, I understand that it was not a person who drew it, but artificial intelligence, there is zero value in it. But in order to understand this, you need to have some kind of experience, in art or, say, in some other business.

And here very soon, well, now we have some things covered with patina, we value them, we understand how great their value is, we are looking for them. I am talking about some serious values ​​that we really suddenly realized. So it is here. Now we are playing with this, it is a toy. It is very profitable for someone to frighten us with everything: artificial intelligence, wars. diseases, something else. But a lot of money is spent on this. This means and makes sense. A person, not possessing calm, in fear, is not capable of being a creator. He is only capable of being afraid to use this intellect, because suddenly he himself does not understand. Maybe the intellect will do better than him. Therefore, quality, internal content, it acquires a special value in a person.

Because a person becomes a filter in order to choose whether he himself created something or entrusted it to artificial intelligence, and this is a vulgar picture.

Everything is very striking, they send me music, almost to my poems, and say, this is artificial intelligence. I hear fashionable motives in this, and nothing. That is, we will learn to distinguish this, but in order to learn, we ourselves must be natural. This godlikeness in us, it is ... somehow an attempt to remove it from us. And we insist that we are truly creators, in order to be a creator. This word is already hackneyed and boring, but this is a state when you are so not so unique, you have such a nature that you have the ability to discern it.

Therefore, there are many factors here that require us to ask ourselves new questions. To ourselves first of all, so that later we will not be afraid of this artificial intelligence. And how do we use computers? And who in general? How are we now without a computer? This is also, in general, part of artificial intelligence. But we understand that we used it as a tool.

We will grow, we cannot stop. We cannot be Neanderthals and go into some kind of century... Yes, there will be completely different forms of materialization later. They will be. But in order to reach these forms, it is not by chance that we are taking such very strange steps. We must mature. Otherwise, who will give us a grenade?

The planets that will now reshape the Earth, nature, why do they, first of all, affect brain activity, the head? They are called to rebuild some of our thinking processes. And therefore, these planets themselves are very painful in their relationship. Therefore, these states of depression, misunderstanding, fear, anxiety and some kind of withdrawal into oneself, such a cowardly one, they will also be the other side of the coin. This is true. But if a person nevertheless begins to believe in himself, and not in some uncle who will help him, or in some organization from which he will demand some money for himself, then a person will really have inner strength.

Events will come themselves, they are formed around people who attract this to themselves. You do not need to be super young and somehow strong, to pump up powerfully for this to happen. This is an inner state, first of all, of trust. Trust in everything and in everyone. And this is not some kind of bliss, but you are presenting your scale to this person. You are not afraid, because you are large-scale. He can make a mistake and hit the wall of your generosity. Break not against your harshness, but against the wall of generosity, because he cannot break through. And he, naturally, collides, as if it seems to him that something bad was done to him there.

But when you give him chances, please, use them, please, so to speak, you share your world, your energy. If it does not correspond to him, this is also normal, he will find someone who does. But we will see each other, feel each other not on the level of intellectual community, but on the level of some kind of spiritual closeness.

I don’t know if you yourself feel it or not, sometimes you meet a person, and he quotes you, and he says something, and you think, why is he saying this, what is it, right? What is there in it? You want to find some kind of grain in this, and you don’t see it. And it happens that a person said two words, and you think, here’s the answer to the question.

About loneliness

Interviewer: You know, I’m seeing another paradox. Despite the fact that this year there’s been an off-the-charts number of divorces, a lot of information about depressive states that have increased exponentially due to loneliness, there are a lot of lonely people. And against this background, I see a huge demand from people for... Forgive me, Lord, this sounds somehow downright trite and hackneyed. For spiritual communication. A person says, look, I really wanted to sit down, I really wanted to talk. We didn't discuss anything like that, but just like that, as we were sitting there, I really, really wanted or wanted it.

And then in connection with this the question arises, what are those things on which it is very important to keep the focus of your attention and develop, support and nourish them. And also the next question, with what exactly?

Svetlana: Well, this question of loneliness and.. a hasty search for at least someone to somehow close this topic... After all, people, when they are meaningful, , they are not even afraid of being alone, because there is no feeling of this loneliness, the absence of fear of being alone. This is the primary, most important option that will attract everything related to partnership. The planets that enter, they kind of separate each one and say: "Who are you?"

Partnership should not be based on the fact that you need to rely on someone, and he closed some issues. And when you are good with your content and with that person or group of people, everything will be based on common interests, common settings. We all think that we need to unite by craft, by profession, but the point is not in the profession, but in some common internal direction.

You need to stop being afraid

And then either groups or partnerships are created. The simplest and most, it would seem, banal answer is to stop being afraid, you just need to do something, you need to look at the world, look at how interesting and beautiful it is, catch meanings, not some event details, meetings, but you understand what is behind the feeling that some meeting brought you. And do you understand what is behind it? It brought you some kind of internal turn in your feeling.

You have changed, and now other events will come to you. And you feel the arrival of these events even from the picture. You understand that suddenly, wow, the situation has become different, and I have some opportunities. Or some block appeared, stood like this, usually there is a planet checking, saying: "... listen, come back to yourself, double-check yourself, we need to protect you a little from others now, so that you can focus on the issues of focusing your attention on important things. You, apparently, have lost focus...".

That is, to perceive these signs not as a punishment there, but as the opposite, an attempt to talk to you, external forces there, which we do not see, do not feel, the Subtle world, it forms, in principle, events. It. We just do not understand it.

But when we understand that it speaks to us in the language of some external manifestations, people, sensations, we begin to perceive some other circumstances or a person, whether he is good or not bad. He can turn to us with a different side, because all people turn to each other with very different sides.

When we are told what he is like, we can only check it through ourselves. So we turn to him with a good side, and he turns to us with it. I always say that our world is like this ball, which consists of such mirrors that are located at a certain angle. And here the light falls on some mirror, here it glows, on some it does not fall, and it is in the dark. That is, the reflection of light, if you carry, you reflect. And those events that happen to you are a reflection of your real light.

Talk to yourself. Do not look for, say, some kind of guilt in another. He reflected to you something that is there in you. Therefore, working with yourself is a very interesting story, it is fascinating. And you see how the world around you begins to structure itself differently, it speaks to you in a different language, with different people, different events, circumstances, opportunities, prospects.

On changes in education

Interviewer: Last time we talked about what knowledge and how it should be passed on to children, and that this issue will be very acute this year and in the following years. But do you know what I paid attention to this year? This is that certain education reforms are already taking place, and some things actually made me wary.

When the literature program was updated this year, and some things were singled out from it, For many it went unnoticed, but I noticed that the topic of the relationship between generations, the development of a person and the choice of his life path was excluded. What do you think about this? What processes do you see in this?

Svetlana: Almost until summer. Until at least May 2025, there is no point in talking about any real reforms, constructive, useful ones. This is all a cycle around frivolous, infantile approaches in an attempt to make us even more infantile. That is, even all those ideas that I also heard, They were, perhaps, even with the presence of greater progress in the hope that this would be progress.

They all concerned some more technical issues, like how to do it better, or some very strange things related to exams, to checks. In general, utility, some kind of primitiveness of the approach. It did not surprise me, because I understood that there was nothing to wait for now.

But with the arrival of the summer of 2025, a lot of things began change. Firstly, the question of attitude to history, to nature, to what is really important, as it really is, the depth of the educational process will still become the focus of attention.

Depth, the need to find some other forms of immersion, say, in knowledge. By the way, very strongly nature-oriented. But this is not a key factor of the educational nature. Somewhere in June 2025, we will hear some progressive forms of Perception of information.

We are used to the fact that we go sequentially, study some things, these things, then somehow our memory is laid down for us, but everything will not be like that. I can only assume that very fast forms of perception of information, instant perception may appear. But this will not happen immediately. At first it will be brought in a slightly distorted form. Maybe some technologies can be used in this. I do not exclude that such exotic ones that we may not like. But in 2026, all this will be transformed into a completely different factor, into a different form of understanding, education and information saturation. Because the channels of knowledge consumption can be different. These may not necessarily be generally accepted textbooks that are the same for everyone. This will be something else.

This will also be a different form of perception of information by the brain. These will be different states that allow you to have this information. This will be a distribution by freedom of perception speed. And, let's say, the guidelines in which a person moves. Everything that we will try to do now, well, at least until the summer of 2025, will not be productive. What will happen later, starting in 2026, a person will change a lot. His ability to perceive information quickly, globally, to transmit it, to communicate differently.

That is, now we only have the word. We can only exchange it, and we often lack it. We often understand that we want to convey a state. We want to convey not some linear sequence, but a general understanding of some process. Then there comes detailing.

On interaction with the subtle world

That is, it has become difficult for us, we get tired, sometimes we fall silent from fatigue and unwillingness to even tell something there. Have you noticed this? And this problem will be solved by the fact that our form of perception, even intuitive, it will give us more opportunities for such a holographic perception of information. That is, everything we do is an agreement that yes, we communicate with this world in its language, it gives us the opportunity to perceive itself only within the framework of, say, that system, as if it were a computer that is embedded in it. And what is beyond this computer? Do you understand what I'm talking about? That is, we are still acting in this interface system, which does not contain anything that goes beyond this interface. Because we live in this computer system, and someone else is sitting behind it, and there is a whole world there.

And now, if we are going to talk in such categories, we will go beyond the framework of this interface, which offers us only a material environment, only those forms of logic that are subject to us and are perceived by us. That is, going beyond this environment will naturally give us other options, and these will not be the same buttons and icons that we have been pressing all the time.

Interviewer: You are talking about the sixth sense.

Svetlana: We live within the framework of a certain world, classified, yes, that is, it is like this... for us this is a game world. And we do not understand how it works. We do not understand our interaction with the subtle world, which lies outside this interface. And this interaction with the subtle world is now emerging. Many people there say that they see something, someone hears something. Previously, the mental hospital was only for such people, right? And now some messages are coming, right? But not just any, but many already see it, understand that these are working things.

That is, our contact with the subtle world and it with us, this interpenetration is a very difficult process. Therefore, many even react to this with depression, because it is not clear whether they are afraid of it or how to live with it. For this, an open mind is needed, because we will begin to understand where the things that we... well, where events come from, anything. Which are incomprehensible to us. We put logic there, because our mother raised us that way, because we once did something. We do not even know how time works. We do not even understand that the question, for example, of traveling somewhere, chronotravel or achieving something is not a question of the linearity of the incoming. It is a question of the code that exists. It has there is a code address, and you can penetrate it.

Now, probably, it also sounds very difficult to understand, when we understand that the past and the present already exist, and it is like a single world, and for us it is time, because we need to get there. We will walk for centuries, but we will not get there in a linear way, because penetration somewhere far away, say, of knowledge and planets, is not connected with the progressiveness of movements, with the methodical achievement. It is connected with the possibility of our body, brain and perception. Therefore, we are now training it, we are moving into this state.

Why do I say trust in myself, we are talking about the soul. This is the first step to the perception of this subtle world, contact with it. Finding contact with it gives the opportunity to live alchemically.

Sometimes, for example, I myself get nervous, I think, I need to come, tell this person that he is wrong, that I should... Light, stop! You understand that you can now...how would you think about it. A person will clearly feel it himself, that something needs to be rebuilt there. It is not necessary to bring it to him in words, he reacts to words... such verbal information, it touches him in a very strange way. That is, our brain, it is, of course, a good tool, but it is that very "key" or that very, interface button, that is what the brain is. It says: "Don't go there, the computer ends there. You and I only play what we have. We have such scripts, we have such a program." That is, our programming can only exist within the framework of this computer.

As soon as we go to the level outside this interface, we understand how everything is programmed both there and there, and that there is a programmer who influences this computer. That is, we begin to see this entire environment. And it requires calmness from us, and not fear that someone is commanding us.

Now artificial intelligence will come. Calmness. Everything is fine if you exist. You are part of that creator who is teaching himself to be this creator. Now we are moving to a new school, to a new education, but this requires strength, and calmness, and trust in the time that is coming. And time, it will filter out everything that is needed, all those who are needed. And it does not filter or kill anyone on purpose. It is just that the person himself resists it, physiology begins to suffer. Physiology and eventfulness too, this is also part of the rejection.

Therefore, as soon as a person does not resist, he perceives everything as a plan from above. Well, who among us, I always give an example, well, who among us is really wiser, God or Trump? or someone like him, or someone in general. That is, in any case, everything happens by human hands. And Trump is also a historical actor in the coming to a new time. He will show a lot of what was wrong, what the path that is being chosen there is, what his mistake is. That is, each of us, making mistakes, is both a textbook and an assistant. As soon as we accept this, the world ceases to be dual.

Forecast: March 2025 - February 2026

Interviewer: I would like to ask you now, not from the point of view of a teacher, but of a person who sees and feels, and knows a little more than, perhaps, a certain number of people, to which I also count myself, to explain in the next year from the point of view of some milestones that will occur, and how they can and should probably be responded to. It would be right to react like this and not to fall for it, or, on the contrary, to do it this way. Well, I don't know, from January 2025 to December 2025.

Svetlana: I would also suggest a different timeline. Probably from March. From March 2025 to February 2026.

That is, to understand that you need to be flexible, receptive, not stand still, not slow down, not try to go into the past, analyze it, change it, and it is no more, this past. That is, to keep up with the times. and understand that this is exactly the test that is going on.

First comes this testing factor, when nature itself begins to speak, people, unite, you have values, you will see it all now.

- The first step is spring. which many things seem to create chaos, and even Russia has no options to understand what is happening.

- The second step is from spring, summer, autumn - these are the most global changes with the inclusion of the first trial versions of technical, metaphysical ones. We will see some miracles up there in the sky, we will begin to dig where they have never dug before and technologically. We will encounter new forms of the Earth itself. We need to somehow build an economy. But we have nothing, no tools.

Well, don't rush. Just go. Believe that you simply must keep up, don't be afraid. These times will pass very soon.

And this feeling of chaos shouldn't scare you. First of all, it shouldn't scare you. People are looking for where to go to hide from some disasters. It doesn't depend on where you go. It's a question of your inner state. You can end up in the epicenter, and it won't affect you.

But many, it's clear that many will return, maybe even to Russia, because the attraction of these values, the attraction of something that is beyond this logic. Not in the sense of hiding there better, the government here is worse, but in the sense of some kind of inner kinship.

People are trying to save money, people are trying to accumulate something somewhere. The issue of accumulation and everything connected with accumulation, I'm afraid, won't work at all. Everything must be in motion. Movement and renewal are part of the condition of the coming year.

This is flexibility, renewal, new thinking and the absence of fear, especially the fear of loneliness. Not fighting with your own thoughts, which your brain will dictate when it is impossible, it was not before. It happens in all sorts of ways. Life is so diverse that we have never seen it like this. This is a truly unique time. This is the time of the formation of changes, the initial stage. 2024 collapsed, 2025 is quickly beginning to rebuild, but has not yet rebuilt. We do not see anything created. We only see the preparation for this creation.

Autumn 2025 begins, when we understand that everything has been uprooted, everything from the previous life that was, and the Russian reality has been very strongly updated, very strongly. Its position in the geopolitical coordinate system, the decline of America's dominant role and the general redistribution of power in this geopolitical landscape are changing completely.

The next most important step, of course, autumn will be very important there, in 2025, which will seem to make it so that how is it possible, we hoped that everything would move, but we have nothing, we have received nothing. There is some kind of devastation around, right? It is not a fact that this is devastation. It is not a fact that this is devastation. It is simply part of the scenario, which will have to basically finish itself off around February 2026. There will be a more radical test of strength, a balance of power, after which there will be no more fluctuations in the other direction. Those geographic points that will go into fluctuations there and will be unstable in every sense of the word, they will no longer stabilize.

Acceptance of the fact that you will have to live in a new world, and for this you must also simply be flexible. If you have talents, abilities, and capacity for work, you don't necessarily have to be young and have a huge amount of strength. You can recreate some things yourself that will provide you with life. And only after some February events of 2026 and beyond will we see the horizon of a new life. It is also not entirely stable there, because the entire perestroika will take, there, until 2028. So, by and large. But these global processes, especially earthly ones, because nature will act according to different laws, and, naturally, this will affect everything. Well, naturally, we are a part of nature, and we are not separate from it. Therefore, of course, we will be different in our relations with space, in our relations with other civilizations, if you like.

That is, we are being prepared to expand our consciousness to the understanding that we do not need to be so naive as to think that we are the creators of nature here and turn back rivers, there is no one else in this world. No. We simply have to understand and realize that our entry into new cosmic realities presupposes a different humanity. And cosmic realities and new unique informational things will open up in full in 2026. We will understand what education is, what we should go towards, what are the forms of equality, and that this is not connected with Schwab's ideas, but this is a different form. And there we will already begin to see some horizon of understanding, ah, that's it, we will say to ourselves. That's why this year 2025, we are riding on a train that changes pictures, it shakes, but we are riding.

Strength in accepting and understanding what is happening

Interviewer: The only thing I would ask you to additionally focus your attention on, because I perfectly understand and feel people who receive such a forecast, at first glance it looks not just alarming, it looks frightening. And a certain number of people, having already heard the harbingers of this forecast, began to move to other lands, leaving large cities. I would like your words to sound here as some kind of antidote to this alarming and scary thing, which will give exactly this stability that we talked about at the very beginning of our interview.

Svetlana: I think that when we always fought for some truth, we are the masters of life, but if we want to be the masters of life, we must understand that each of us is its master .

And the owner then, when his thoughts and creative position and possibilities arise only in the internal, I do not say such calmness and indifference, just self-confidence. Calmness in the sense that you understand what is happening. Just understand. Don't, I don't know, rush, do something urgently, dig. It won't help. Change your profession, rebuild, sell the house. Yes, yes, yes, everything will come. Only if you agree, just agree to internal level. When a person understands how this world structure works, he immediately, this world extends its hand to him. It says, you are mine, I know that you agreed with me, you are not against. Simply even energetically you are not against this message , this impulse.

It is clear that changing your worldview is difficult, especially for those who are part of the system. Especially for those who are the software of this system. I often meet people of very high rank, of leadership rank. They cannot hear , they seem to be very erudite, they do not perceive at all. And this is part of this anxious category of people who cannot perceive anything outside of their own rules. But when you are free from these rules, you can, of course, to play with this system, to pretend that you have a relation to it, although, in principle, everything is very readable. All thoughts are readable. And this is the internal perception at first, what is happening, what you are reflecting, what is happening in your life, and a sense of yourself. Directly, I would say, you need to sit down and feel yourself. who you are, what you are, that the world is you, that these are his hands, the world is hands.

This feeling of yourself as a part of this world, it creates a different energy in a person, it creates both a protective canvas and a canvas of such radiance and brightness that you simply... You absorb the space with your brightness. You correspond energy that comes. And it is of this kind. This correspondence comes from human feeling.

Therefore, without fuss, without trying to rush, invest somewhere, or not invest, or terribly educate someone. Just trust that children are our future, they are a new generation, in which everything is embedded. They will live there wiser than we imagine. We are not so wise that we should now rebuild our child there to our truth. Maybe , he hears more, knows more. That is, this trust in partners, and the child, and the world. You just need to do it. Part of your strength, not your weakness.

Interviewer: This is not a prophecy, this is a toast now. This is the very moment when you can make a choice. It has been talked about a lot and often lately. But this is really the very moment when a person makes a choice in favor of feeling like this creator.and feel yourself in this process of co-creation, and understand how great the idea was, when each person, no matter where and in what place he is, was created and brought into this world.

Svetlana: Exactly at this time.

Interviewer: Exactly at that time. Just to understand it and feel it. And, probably, no one had such a choice. At least, I don’t remember my grandparents and parents having exactly the same feelings that we are discussing now.

Svetlana: I think that the weak were not brought here now, so everyone who lives here now are quite strong people who have a chance to simply ascend to the sky with huge, I mean in a good sense of the word, right in the body, become much larger. The body is also being rebuilt, so it's a good time.

Interviewer: It is a good time for us to strive for a bright future, locally trying to build some cities and civilizations, and now is the very moment when it is really possible, starting with ourselves, to build this beautiful bright civilization within ourselves and try to see it here , on Earth, being. Thank you, Light. I really hope that in our small talk, the people who watched and listened to us, and tuned in to your wave, managed to feel exactly what I felt. Because you were absolutely right: " Words are important." But there is a huge meaning between the lines. And I read it.

I really hope that you, dear friends, also feel this and you will be able to return to this state all the time in this coming 2025, no matter what is happening outside the windows of your rushing train. I am incredibly grateful to you for carrying this light and for giving people the opportunity from this point of calm, acceptance of the significance of the moment, to see what is happening and be ready for it.

Svetlana: Thank you, Ira. Thank you.