“Difficult conversation” part 1

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Are events formed in three stages? And what historical period can the current events be compared to?

Svetlana: To not stress about the individual events that await us and are about to happen, as well as others that will follow, when we look at the long horizon, we understand the reasons why all this is occurring. And when these events take place for a fundamental reason, we perceive them very utilitarianly, they can be bad or good.

But when we see the meaning, our perception changes; for what does this happen? What does it mean? It means that we are in a different emotional state, a different, if you will, vibrational state. Thus, accepting the grand plan, we calmly accept the processes we must undergo for this ultimate purpose.

As if a person, who I don't know, was treated, had injections, it was painful, then he rehabilitated, and then something else. But we understand that the final scene is done for its sake, and this is the main meaning.

When we talk about dividing it into three or four parts. The movement of planets, there are many, it doesn't only take one planet into account that sets tones and promises something then delivers it in three stages. It's not quite like that.

This kaleidoscope is always different. Thus, I sometimes come across such a question, well, you supposedly identify with the past, take events, compare, and there should be so. It will not be like that. Because this kaleidoscope, when we change everything, it changes and does not repeat. There are individual elements that remind the professional of the core meaning, but these are not identical events.

And like now, for instance, I hear many people looking for these patterns, and these patterns sometimes hint at the general spirit of what will happen. The general spirit.

But event-wise, it might be entirely different. But for me, it's very valuable to understand this. Suppose, we launched an app. Well, people might swipe through it, oh, this came true, but that didn’t. That’s not the point.

These are strokes to a larger picture. And these strokes, as they progress, we don’t yet understand whether this will be the head, or it will be grass, or what it will turn out to be. And these strokes, when we see the far horizon, as now, suppose, we see for what all this is being done. And those events that seem dramatic to us, we reject them, do not accept them. Any asteroid is ready to be shot, as if we were waiting for this asteroid to shoot it.

Therefore, when we understand the essence, each stroke becomes a very important puzzle piece. And so it can be turned from the point of view of awareness, so that it does not encounter resistance from this small puzzle of events. Then everything passes more easily.

And indeed for me, it is important when, sometimes, I understand the question about the three stages, for instance. Sometimes, for a planet to perform some action, it tests this person's energy. It doesn't go ahead immediately; it first goes back, sets its tone, and says, wouldn't you perhaps, I'll even cite an example, on a personal example.

Once, long ago, back in 2009, I had a program on Russia-2, an economic forecast. But before we approached this proposal, the person who tried to figure out what we would do, overall how it would all be, whether they would even give us such an opportunity. And they launched the idea that we needed a program. And the planet kind of went on and says, come on, work. Do you want to work with this?

And the person kind of engages. He still doesn't know what it will lead to, he just gives energy to that, for the prospect to be tested by the planet, what to give him, what scale to set for him. I don't know if I'm clear or not. But it means, she advanced, then went back, and created, as though it did not go, the project something we were not allowed, not given, something was wrong in it.

But we did not give up the idea because the planet just asks, as if, well, how will you behave? I can give you more or less, or perhaps not very such a large-scale theme.

That is, it creates reasons for testing possibilities so that at the exit, at the last touch, at the connection with some important point, it has already said, now we decide, we have checked you, and we understand, you need to be given this.

That is, this happens at a level… It's just one… Each planet thus works, they interact among themselves and are always in dialogue, they are, when they touch. Here one planet has moved away from another, just now they were in conjunction, it is infected with this energy, it carries this energy.

And this constant transmission of one energy, another energy, in order to steer to the finish straight, this is how much it is necessary to reproduce everything, how it is necessary to build this construction, so that at the final variant we get the result. And right now, it is a unique time by that…

I will probably be frank. All the planets already do not care who else thinks about this. It worked out for him, it did not work out. We have already dealt with you, say, so much. We have already had this check.

When I first looked, they asked me in 2018, yes, well, how will it be with this? How will it be with those? I say, guys, let's live until the end of 2019, there will be such a thing that God forbid simply to survive to everyone.

All experience is annulled

And all this seemed to me not just irrelevant, as if swept away everything that had been worked out, history, experience, because all experience is annulled. All your merits, everything is annulled.

And now we are approaching a moment of such a very unique annihilation, where, of course, there will also be stages, which we will talk about, but this is the experience, which seemed to us experience and it would have been useful to us, it seemed so.

But readiness for renewal, for rethinking, this is the interaction with those energies, which test us for the ability to be adapted to what will happen.

Why is all this happening now?

Interviewer: Why is all this happening now? To have another society on Earth after 45 years, or 25, or 30, right?

Svetlana: I would put it differently, probably. Here, it's not about society at all. In general, it's focused on our human essence. Everything there is for the human. We are kind of the crown of nature here.

Processes are so global that if, suppose, we would have imagined that there is a Higher Mind, and it has some tricks, it always slightly shied away from the material part of life, it was separate from this. And material life, it was so uncharged by this part, divine, that it sort of discharged, like a battery, and lived its own course.

And now comes the time, I would say, for the materialization of the Divine essence, on the one hand, and on the other hand matter begins to be deified. That is, this process, it is so global, we are part of this process, so it all happens not only for us.

If we do not fit into this overall process, where we no longer are a significant part of this divine spirit, where we already cease to be it, then, let's say, it is clear that we do not enter this plan.

And what concerns this plan, not only that God, conditionally speaking, starts to interact with matter differently, but matter with God, they must synthesize each other, as if, in a new form, the testing of this new form.

This is such a cycle, which we have not seen, have not caught, did not know such. And we can't even go back retroactively in our generation. We can find some identity, when there, the beginning of the 1700s was, and so on, when there one civilization changed to another and so on, and so on. There is some such... there is something in it similar, but not so much.

That is, to shift such global things, as the interaction of Spirit and Matter, this is not only happening on Earth, this is a Cosmic-level transformation. And we are part of this transformation.

The planet itself is updating

And here's what I want to say about us, I'll just confess. This began to somewhat annoy me, that we do not understand how much our resistance harms us, and it is a bit ridiculous, because we all think, yes, we have harmed the planet, but it's not only about this. The matter is that it itself is updating. The entire hierarchy, which is even, so to speak, Super-Earth.

Well, I decided to write such a poem. I think, with what could it be compared. And I came up with such an allegory. Here we have, suppose, in principle the brain, yes, it controls many processes in the body, yes. That is, there how the stomach works, how the blood vessels work and so forth. That is, this system, it has centralized control.

And now imagine, suppose, blood cells, red, white, they all the time rotated, like the Gulf Stream in a certain direction. Here suddenly they received a command, and we now will move in another direction, because we have an update of the body. But some cells were dissatisfied, there I do not know, red or white, it does not matter. And they said, how so, now we will make a revolution, this is something unheard of, this is terrible. But they do not know, with what this command is connected, because they live inside this interface, and they do not go out of it.

And there, beyond this interface, there is a command much wiser and more important, which told the brain: now you have to work according to another algorithm. And this attempt to revolutionarily somehow agree with the cells so that they would work differently. Here is what it looks like at the level of the Global Cosmic process, when there is human resistance.

And these cells think, that they are entitled to evaluate this global system and make some conclusion, that not there we all move, we need to move there. That is, here is our resistance, purely human, in our sufficiently narrow understanding, because for us everything is prepared: we have eyes, we have there...

I often say this yes but these are all techniques for us to fit into this interface, into this one. And who sits there beyond it is already unimportant. Therefore, the meanings, which stand behind our desires, perceptions. They are significantly more important, wiser, and.. they see better, as it is called.

Therefore, the distant, there are, for example, indicators, in our astrology, which manage huge cycles, and these cycles, they lay the energy in a certain place.

Eclipse principle

Well, here, suppose, there is such a concept - the karmic node. Well, everyone got used to - Rahu, Ketu, это что-то такое. The names of all impress, as well as Black and White Moon, but no one understands, what is the essence. But in reality, as it were, this intersection of the Ecliptic, points, which are not, planets these are not, but ecliptics, these movements, energies, which rotate, for us это нематериализованная история.

But actually in these points the energy is laid, that is, there arrived someone there in some way there, the energy was postponed. Arrived someone else, and this energy explodes, when there comes an eclipse. And we receive that explosion of what a person needs to change, to change. He laid this, he got it.

That is, so many invisible to us things, which we read только in our таких materialistic actions, что мы не можем выйти за пределы этого понимания, когда речь идет о закладке каких-то событий.

Jupiter in Gemini and education

That is, that upgrade, который сейчас будет происходить, вот те планеты, которые тоже были помощниками, несли свою энергию, там что-то свое создавали, путали людей, они же нелинейно действуют, там кого-то отвели в одну сторону, потому что он решил, что, допустим, сейчас Юпитер шел по Близнецам, что надо об образовании поговорить. Ну какое образование, когда Юпитер находится в сфере своей слабости? Что он не может внести идею. Что - вы можете парты переставить? Поставить их там в ряд или вот в линейку, может быть, так лучше? Или экзамен будет идти там не 3, а 5 часов?

Ну, то есть это детали, которые к образованию не имеют отношения. И мы эти терминологии вообще путаем. И поэтому, дождавшись нормального, естественного, мудрого, глубокого Юпитера, который будет этим летом (2025), уже войдет свой знак, мы можем говорить об образовательных процессах.

Entry of Planets into Aries - the beginning of a new cycle

That is, each planet must first perform its function. And the meaning now is that, apart from the fact that we see a complete reset of the old system, which even of the Zodiacal system, because everything enters Aries.

Everything starts from scratch. We start anew. And even this mechanism, который сейчас будет привнесен, Божественно-Материальный, Материально-Божественный. It is also young, it still does not know how it will develop, but in this time, when there are controversial moments, something needs to be cleaned, something needs to be created, something needs to be loaded into people, some new perception, some new program. They just won’t survive with it.

Why are people depressed now?

What's really going on? Many people are depressed, right? And just. And someone even says, I have problems with my head. I just don’t know anything. Someone hurts, someone has something. It's because certain planets are now entering the zone associated with the head, это как загрузка новой программы. And with it, it must somehow be matched, it must somehow be integrated into all this. And this resistance to all this causes diseases, causes, there, I don’t know, problems, not necessarily physical, they can be, there, I don’t know, people sometimes die in disasters or in some, as it seemed, random questions, but no.

How not to resist?

Interviewer: How not to resist? I also confess that my head has been hurting for the last two months. I took pills. There has never been such a thing. How not to resist, and most importantly, what not to resist? Because I, for example, am set up for a different future.

Svetlana: I understand. I understand, because, well, first of all, it's personal for everyone, but the actions that, suppose, you need to do something, create something. You think you'll go, buy this, then agree with that person, then arrange the documents, and this is all as if you.

But here it happens all inside. This perception of what's happening isn't just with some childlike enthusiasm, like, interesting, what will happen, right? But just with an understanding of this further goal. For what?

And for that, to harmonize the processes that have come to a dead end. That is, we understand that you harmonize something, but it's impossible if we don't fix this, cut something off, add something, bring something in.

But if you understand that, suppose, yes, sick treatment, but you know for what, not because, what are you doing with me, why are you there injecting that injection or there doing surgery. The question is that when you sincerely, sincerely, this is very important, that your feelings and emotions, they become a very important building material.

Change of matrix

We talked about the matrix, right? But the matrix before did not allow building some of your models of your life, not so much of the future, as that field in which you live, the people who come to you, what pleases you, and so on. Now this change of matrix, and we are dealing not only with the deification of matter, but with building it on the principle of plasma.

Remember the film "Solaris"? Generally Stanislaw Lem's. That is, what you thought, it came back to you. There the heroine, who once there ended her life by suicide because of his there some actions. That is, but this Solaris, this ocean, it reflected these thoughts and led the events of people there. Well, people, in general, from the past.

Partnership relations

But the point is that the responsibility for Understanding – this is also a form of tolerance to those people who still do not understand this, who are nearby, who… Well, I am asked a question. Listen, there are advanced people here. This is a real question. Here they are so advanced, they have to deal so much with their partners. These partners, banally speaking, are not very smart, and he is already so majestic, and he has been pulling her, and pulling her this way and that. I think, well, maybe, throw it away? Why, what is it? It's not suitable anyway, the material is not that. I want to ask a question, who here is whose teacher? Who is pulling whom here? Are they pulling you to the height with your self-delivery, with your human perception of all this. Or are you there kind of magnanimously pulling someone.

These are our very complicated perceptions of each other, of how this world is arranged, how everyone is given some kind of their lives, their tasks, their experiences, and we get angry at someone, not smart enough, not advanced enough, doesn't eat right, and so on. That is, this. when you understand the main meaning it starts to dissect it into the details of your life it as if projects onto everything therefore Here, let's say, there are no such universal formulas, because everyone in their life has their own such very difficult choice. The only thing that, perhaps, can be relevant for everyone, is that sincerity, that tells you not a question of benefit, but a question of your emotional balance, if you act like this.

Emotional balance. If this is not important for you, your emotional balance, then we doubt that this is at all relevant for the future. If still a person, yes, still filters for himself, that here it appeals to him. Yes, it's inconvenient, it's unprofitable, maybe, there is better, maybe, there is cheaper or something else.

But there are some things that you feel are important, they need to be done. They contradict your financial task, contradict the understanding of some people, who are around, and they move in the social context. But you go that way and do not use these tools, which were created in this world.

What is marketing? It's still kind of a system, working in the old matrix, because it calculated her algorithms of work and works.

And whether this marketing will work in that matrix, which is oriented not on this calculation of the material, but on the inner scale, born of the emotional state, when you understand that you, making some choice, paying no attention to anything, you yourself become bigger for yourself. Here this phrase, it is such, it seemed, maybe, not everyone feels it so. Here "I am". Is there anything in it that hints that you are in this apartment, that you have this, and then you are?

No. You are, as some kind of seed, which has extraordinary strength, therefore it does not want to move on to some such lyricism, which is not close to everyone, but still here are these questions of priorities, and not only of priorities, perhaps, and of hierarchy, who is higher, who is lower, here it is necessary to be more careful with this, and who teaches whom here.

Do acquaintances and relatives need to be helped to understand what is happening now?

Interviewer: But look, now I'm talking conditionally, 90% of our Soviet people, the same foreigners. They live within the framework of the old social contract with the matrix, yes, where you got up in the morning, washed up, brushed your teeth, went to work, there, you finished at 6 o'clock, came here by the stores, ran around, washed the child for the morning, sent to school. And this wheel, it does not end, yes? And well, I feel, up to 90% live exactly in this quantity. And those words that you just told, they are probably, well, probably informational noise for them. Yes, yes. Well, if someone hears a little. Well, if a neighbor, or husband, or wife, or mom tells you, please listen and think. These people, they need to be pulled out, or a planet, some kind of planet will come at a certain moment and pull them out of this wheel and say, come to your senses.

Svetlana: One planet definitely does not come and does not pull out, yes. It comes a series of circumstances that in my eyes changed the fate of people. In recent times, so categorically such people, who were in such rigid these matrix frameworks were indestructible. They were good people. It does not mean that there he is a bad person, there shamelessly some kind of. No, he fulfilled his duty. But the question arises. This duty, what is its humane essence? He kind of. Or you're just built in, and you kind of fulfill certain commands.

European Lifestyle and Geographical Zones

And here we are, generally speaking, approaching an answer to this question about many European lifestyles. Our conversation suggests such honesty, yes, and perhaps even a kind of ruthlessness in some sense.

After all, why, actually, now, not just there my words to Russia, let's go there, it's so cool. There's a lot of stuff here that is also not ready for change, but it will be ready.

What remains here is this kernel that used to be read as something recklessly direct, such blissful people, who for some reason have contracts. They welcome guests and put everything on the table, which isn't always done, say, in Europe. But this zone of unbreakable human code has remained here.

And when you look with a cold eye at the prospects, what really is the core of Russia, it remains. It too... it will touch many things. And things will not be so simple. But mainly, that geographical, say, zone, where people are most susceptible to this lifestyle, erases itself. And until you shake them, until the moment comes. What if it's time to unite?

Spain Valencia

What happened to us? In Valencia, it all showed right to our faces. And how people there united, and how they all went together, and they were taken there, as if they were brought to help, but then they were quickly pushed aside a bit. There were no such plans.

But people felt the need for each other. This is when you're without the tools of such a comfortable social life, you start thinking differently. And people, who encountered other forms of challenges, even here in Russia, it's so exclusive, so unpredictable, the plots that unfolded, that each one differently.

"This is your zone, this is your direction"

Yes, you can say a lot, but people don't hear it, to be honest, but they don't hear. Suddenly it starts to reach someone, and they start listening to all this. It really is so.

But so to extract this, sometimes I think, well, my personal experience is such - I sometimes think, oh, how wrongly a person behaves. And now I will go, I will tell him, he is wrong here, he should be like this because he is making it worse for himself. Then I stop and think, Svetlana, why? We will still encounter the same thing. And when you start to understand even internally some distortion of all this, you come up with this idea, this thought, kindly.

You don't get outraged, you don't say that you're wrong. And the person seems to start experiencing some discomfort, like, really, something is not right. And he starts to look for it himself. And often this happens on the level of your thought, on the level of your perception of the zone you are in. After all, this is your zone, after all, this is your direction. Yes, we intersect, but since you thought about this situation, you are related to this situation as a director.

Planets concoct a plot and they need participants

And not by chance I say this when, say, I see certain planetary configurations, I see, well, as if a planet concocts a little plot. They need to spin it for their own reasons because the plot itself begins to be a being. And it begins to look for its participants in this process.

And someone fits, someone doesn't. And thus a certain, say, closed field is created, in which everyone begins to act within certain limits.

But we never consider life from this point of view. We somehow very linearly. He went, he's bad, he's good, he came, he said, but that's not the point. He sometimes becomes a participant in the process, being quite a normal, good person, unable to get out of this process. And you understand that it was pulled into it, and he is in the main role.

Plasticity of the new matrix

But when we start to think this way, to feel, we don't label people. Because they open up differently for everyone. Someone talks about this person well, someone badly. But when we understand that the plasticity of the new matrix allows us to consider these processes, if you have enough strength, energy, you can expand this zone, that is, the radius of your influence becomes greater.

And, say, many processes, they are in your control. It's hard, maybe, to perceive, but it's in the control of your processes, this relationship to these processes, not attempts there to influence it with some kind of pressure.

Telepathic information connect

What are we coming to? We come to the fact that we lack words. Well, we, when we want to convey some thought, we understand that we always miss the mark, miss the target. We talk something and don't hit that exact factor to convey our thought. And we understand that the person either catches up on some other level, or not.

We are preparing to transition to a completely different information connect, which might be partly telepathic, partly not only telepathic. That is, we are already encountering now that our interaction acquires some other form. We sometimes look, someone comes, and we think, what about this person came to us? We are already starting to think this way. And he as a projection of this future. A bit like it already reveals this future.

That is, these are quite complex forms, perhaps, of perception. But when you become a bit sensitive to these questions, and you... A person can talk a lot, but you understand that this... Just a person like that, well, he loves to talk. But the question is different, he carries something else. Something else, what's behind it. And when you are able to read it, somehow interpret it, you already start perceiving it differently.

Everything comes either as a challenge, or as a learning experience, or as a hint. This reading of the situation, it lets you go there, doesn't want to let you go, but you still break through there, you bend this space. And it deforms, then it hits you with this spring later on the forehead.

The world is energy

That is, this feeling, when you understand when circumstances dictate such a form, but for this you need to learn to listen, to hear the world, people, animals. Because since I have to work closely with this, I see, as they, horses, often reflect your state, your future, your, there, maybe, upcoming recovery or otherwise, yes.

That is, this world, it just has a form, there, anything, but it is all energy, yes, energy, which for us specially, well, in such an illusory quest, is presented to us in this way. Yes yes.

Morality and Ethics

Interviewer:  I want to translate into such an old-Russian or how to say old-matrix language what you said. Before we used to orient on... well, we had a certain account in front of society, for our actions, for our deeds. I understand correctly that now these old conditions must be completely discarded and oriented on some kind of inner morality. And if something interests you, then it's generally not important what the neighbor, the boss, mom, dad, and so on think about it. And then something will manifest.

Svetlana:  yes, because it will be you, not someone who created the matrix, yes. It will be you and you have the opportunity to become a director, then the main director. But anyway, look, what is morality, ethics, and in general, how all this is now interestingly mixed.

So they killed in America one of the important characters, extremely wealthy.

Interviewer:  The insurer.

Svetlana:  The insurer, yes. And now this guy, who did it, moreover, he was not there unhappy, there, poor in some way, he was quite successful and at wonderful parents, everything was fine for him, he didn't have to be offended by someone.

But with his hands he committed a certain act that made one think about something. What is good, what is bad, right? Hero or is he a criminal? That is, there are very subtle things that sometimes a person is forced to do in order to demonstrate where you have gone, people.

Interviewer:  Attract attention.

Svetlana:  Yes, yes. And we are very starting to shift this. Yes, but he still committed a crime, a person's life was taken. And so on, and so forth. We, in human society, have very such complex, well, kind of, rules, right? Because what is good, what is bad. But when, say, the main idea needs to start allowing, destroying, then what tools are there? What else is there?

Interviewer:  It's a good example, but society attracted its attention, I mean this case attracted attention.

Svetlana:  Yes, just a person, probably, that one had to get out of the game, he couldn't get out of the game like that. But! Not only did they attract our attention to this, but to that... But in general, what's happening? How does this destruction happen? Because in this mess, good-bad or somehow differently, it is very difficult to find that clear duality, which we used to consider, as a rule. Only this way or only that way. And no halftones, and no other blurred things at all.

And therefore there is very much, which sits on this needle. And very many political processes, which we will not voice, but they are also partly this struggle of ethics, law, humanity, anti-humanity.

This path is serial

Well, let's say, as long as there are military structures, there will be war. Why do they exist? Well, because as a guarantee, energy, which needs to feed itself, it needs a nurturing environment and so on, and so forth. That is, as long as there is some kind of plot hook like that, then, it means, the game will happen in it.

But when we relate to the game a little detached, and we understand, first of all, we do not engage in it, you energetically cannot be drawn into it, it cannot accept you, and it does not have such options for you. It only accepts those who have options, someone has some other obligations, because we come here, we only orient ourselves to this life, in this life he did not achieve justice.

But if we understood that there are many lives, and that this path is serial, and at the end of some series we would see this, then a completely different sense of responsibility would have arisen.

And all, say, forms of suppression of independence, well like, yes, let's say, there are different religious, say, beliefs, in which there that life and everything. But you have a minimum of responsibility for everything you do here. Well, maybe, and punishment won't catch up there for what you did there yesterday. Just won't make it in time, right? There.

But actually, this understanding of your ubiquity, even I would say, because we only perceive ourselves here, we are held back very much by the body, because it hurts, it's hot there, cold, and we dedicate very much there. That's why people go into meditation? They go into another cognition, when you are without an Avatar, conditionally speaking, and you are already in a state of another form of hearing and seeing, because you are able to sort out what is happening. And you perceive yourself as some kind of being that has spread across the cosmos, because you are not just there a speck.

What about our karmic program?

Interviewer:  I have a question. Here arises such a conundrum. We came here... well, we talk about several lives. We came here for a certain experience, we have there some kind of karmic... karmic tasks for this life and we got into this transition, when the old matrix collapses, the new one, so to speak, appears, all principles change. What about our karmic program? We, so to speak, came here to Earth with this leaflet, yes, and we need to achieve one, two, three, four, five in this life. Does this not contradict?

Svetlana:  Everyone who came here now, they came in time, because this program of theirs includes that it's not so simple to get to Earth to souls in this transitional moment.

But here this situation is very special, because the level of uplift after you go through this is incomparable with anything, it is impossible to experience it anywhere else. And many are given a chance. It's not necessarily some famous people, it's internal processes of some, perhaps, great being, which were not announced, but he was an important key, an important supporting link in this transitional period.

And many came here, because there are those who really go through experience, there are those who came to help. That is, it's not necessarily all homogeneous.

This is a very heterogeneous story. And this heterogeneity, which has already flooded this world with us, because the level of consciousness, such a range, that here on Earth it is very difficult to combine it, because the unconscious, it is denser, more material, and it dominated, because in this dense matrix, naturally, materiality is a priority.

And, therefore, unconsciousness, as part of this very dense materiality, it existed, we were always outraged, well how so? So many people, they steal, nothing happens to them, and so on, and so forth.

The concept of conscience

Interviewer:  Unconsciousness, how the world is arranged?

Svetlana:  Well, unconsciousness... I just don't want to... There are very many gradations, but there is such a concept, as conscience. Very many have empathy and conscience switched off. It's just switched off, there isn't any.

Interviewer:  There are such, yes.

Svetlana:  Well, you can tell them anything you like, they do whatever they want, and, basically, they just don't understand what the problem is. Therefore, they were just part of this world. A mandatory condition. But that's how it is with them. They are part of the challenge to us. And how could we realize anything? How could we at all?

But, if we understand that we are not supposed to chase these people, but when we understand that this is the case, and the world needed it that way. That pressure difference generates wind, right? So here. That is, the acceptance of those forms of life, which was there, and so it was arranged, because, well it's clear, we can look for planet capture, these came, those were killed, these left. We can dig into history and never find the guilty, right? And if we found them, then we must punish them. Who are we then? Are we God or who there?

Of course, everything is done by our hands. And all these events, when we understand this and are not included, then we do not find ourselves in such a slippery choice of ethical problems, right?

That is, if we realize and understand, two people quarreled, they may be wonderful people, or they may not be wonderful. But we understand their problem - two energies collided, which are too selfish to somehow combine or something else. And we don't say, this one is bad, this one is good, right. We just understand that they cannot be in harmony.

What will a bump under the index finger tell us?

Interviewer:  That is, should they split up?

Svetlana:  I just want to say all the processes, when we look at them from above, but here I am very much involved there in the hand, yes. That is, for me with the hands... I started with this, over 30 years, yes, all this. And you look at these paths, mountains, yes, elevations these, yes. There you see under the index finger a big bump, suddenly it's bigger than all, even red, let's say. And it has energy, such powerful, ambitious, possibly hurtful, somewhere might be, if even the thumb, huge there, say, it might be authoritarian.

You can't explain to him. It's his energy, it's his structure . And on this bump, which there went a very good river, it wanted to move forward on this bump, it had to go right to the index finger, and it would have taken a high position. But its ambition, this grown bump, it tore this river. And it didn't reach that high place.

And you see this landscape and understand that you see this person. It does not generate a feeling, oh, what a bad person. You just think, Lord, how to convey, and you can't convey it. And this feeling that people are born, everything is prescribed here, on the hands, on the face, in his chart.

It's his program, he must work with it, he must know it, understand it.

How to get out of the labyrinth?

Interviewer:  Now the question. Now you know and understand his program. He doesn't understand because he didn't have sources of information where to learn this. Let's all remember in childhood there was such a round game that was a labyrinth, a ball rolled in it. Let's imagine that in this labyrinth rolls a certain person, who was born, came to Earth. And he doesn't know that the labyrinth for him is flat, but for him it's volumetric. And he goes left, right, but there's also up and down. And he can't rise. That is, for him to understand that he is in a wider world, he needs to get out of this labyrinth, see this labyrinth and say, oh, I was in a box here, right? And there's so much around here.

Where to get all this? Our education is closed and parents are not helping us in this. I don't know, there, well, some religious figures, I think, not really, yes. Now information has started to appear on the internet. But in general, to an ordinary worker, a fitter, where to pay attention to this information? Where to scoop it up initially - the internet?

Svetlana: Let's start from something else, let's say, yes. Let's respect the levels at which souls are located there, conditionally, yes, which are dressed in avatars, yes, here they came with a specific task. This doesn't mean that if he didn't learn this, then all, he's done, he's bad.

He has steps and sometimes, well, many astrologers know how to see beginners in this life or not beginners. Incidentally, by the dermatoglyphic pattern on the fingertips, you can see how much a person has lived in life, how much experience he has and where he is moving.

That is, this experience sometimes cannot be filled with books. And if there is potential, and he has somewhere to grow, then as it were, circumstances will always be found that will lead him to this.

But there are other things, there is such a concept as such a breadth of soul, such a good, when you do not ask, someone came to you, he wants to drink, he wants to eat, you fed him. Bad person or good person. You had a chance to do it or not do it?

That is, we also have such a notion that knowledge, they always raise a person, make him right better, right immediately. Someone exploits this knowledge for something completely different.

Therefore, initially, perhaps, our gradation of who corresponds to what is also quite distorted. There are people who, as it seems to us, are illiterate, ignorant, they suddenly are so sensitive, they are so empathetic, that the smartest person does not even come to mind, he has other sensors at all on his hands, he doesn't even feel anything.

Therefore, knowledge is sometimes given in another form. Like if we had witches there, some, they did not read books. Sometimes you just understand, feel, there are other forms of awareness, which are not always within the framework of this educational story.

Interviewer:  Commonly accepted.

Svetlana:  Yes. Therefore, say, anyway, the overall canvas, the general main line, it still goes to the fact that many have started talking about high matters. Let it even look somewhat too pathetic.

There used to be no such fashion. There were hippies, who were free from everyone, they will smoke, do something else, let their hair grow. This is a protest against your matrix. There are no suggestions. This is not growth. This is just falling out of matrix codes.

What does it mean to open the heart?

Therefore, now often sounds such a phrase, it causes many to have a dislike — opening of the heart. What does it mean to do? Become just trusting or what, yes?

It's starting to feel. Someone came to you, he tells you something there. Feel what it is, for what, what it is, what is happening to him. Turn on some other sensors. And you turn on sensors in relationships, you turn on sensors further away. You already start to understand that there is such an atmosphere in this house.

Interviewer:  You infect.

Svetlana:  Being already with some inner resource, yes, you come, yes, you are infectious with your resource, whatever it is you have.

And then you think, what an interesting person, he's there now infecting you... But some inner resistance, distrust, something is not right, yes. That is, the information, in the form we still get it, it's still not disinfected enough, even if it's very interesting.

Will a new stage begin in March 2025?

Interviewer:  Planets, which are currently without energy, which... Even if it's now prescribed that they must commit such-and-such events, they won't commit them without energy. And as I understand it, in the month of March (2025) they will start to gather this energy, gather it up to March this energy and we will start a new stage, where planets will already present us with such circumstances, where the world will begin to change more actively, and we will already have to participate in this process. Right, March (2025)?

Retrograde Mercury, Mars and Jupiter 

Svetlana:  A bit not so. Planets are never without energy, just like that. They have inadequate energy.

Suppose, everyone likes to reason about Mercury Retrograde. It doesn't mean that it went retro, and it's there without energy. It cannot go into the future with the energy it now has. It rolls back to change something. That is, it's a chance, a karmic chance, slack, to reconsider, reassess and come out of this situation.

That is, all our some not coming together things, yes, not coming together, they are not just not coming together, but we are like, unfairly just waiting, when they will come together. It means, we have something, that we should reconsider. That is, why there... I, for example, say, a planet without energy. It doesn't mean that it's without energy. It's non-constructive for the future. It rolls back those processes, which:

• Unfinished
• Misunderstood
• Undone
• Undiscussed, say, yes, and so forth.

But the planets themselves, depending on which planet, if it's Mars, yes, then it becomes inadequately aggressive, realizing that it won't achieve anything good, as we now see in the political environment, yes. No, it still, not only that, it intersected with Retrograde Mercury, now it's practically out, so:

• Inadequate information
• Inadequate delivery
• Inadequate perception at
• Inadequate actions

Generates absolute such, well I don't even know, counterproductivity, counterproductivity.

Interviewer:  Just chaotic actions.

Svetlana:  They, sometimes, are not chaotic. Just they are unpleasant because no one hears you. People don't perceive you. Something else is happening. Globally in this there are mandatory conditions, because we need to clean up the environment, for...

Suppose, first Mercury went forward. Jupiter will go forward, it will shake off and say, oh Lord, I was going somewhere wrong, now I need to... And then Mars will go on the 23rd of February (2025). That is, they don't do this simultaneously. And this feeling that something needs to be swept away, finished, removed, to create maximum unpleasantness, so that those who still haven't understood, finally understood something.

But because otherwise understanding does not occur, until some kind of crisis moment and so on. I perceive it, when you want to convey to people, you can't tell them all the details, and not everyone will find time and desire to listen. But you understand that this part, say, at least until the end of January (2025), it... is not the future. They mess with your head, they scare you. Now there, I don't know, there will be a nuclear explosion, something else will happen. Yes, and you just walk around and suffer, and all in that spirit.

And those who believe in this the most, yes, they say, well, you see, these people didn't pass through the sieve, yes, through the filters. Well. It doesn't mean that they won't pass. Everyone has a very specific story. But nevertheless, this part, it must be lived out, discarded before any first activations occur. This is not related to retrogradeness, what will happen. This is the first testing of quite complex configurations, which often, often, gave rise to global military actions.

Continued in the next video.