From hidden metaphysics to concreteness. From today's events to the future (Part 2)
From Hidden Metaphysics to Concreteness. From Today's Events to the Future.
Interview with Svetlana Dragun for Alexander Isambayev's Channel "Everyone Can". Part 2.
Introduction
Interviewer [0:02 - 1:05]:
Friends, hello everyone, you're on the "Everyone Can" channel, with me, Alexander Istombayev, and today I have Svetlana Dragun as my guest, and this is our second episode, our second meeting, our continuation. We're not specifying the topic today, we're talking about a wide range of things, from predictions to human potential, and how each of us should deal with what's happening in the world today, so let's continue.
Look, on one hand, we're moving towards a world where corporations are taking over everything, and on the other hand, as you've said and many others have mentioned, we should move towards an era of individualism, where everyone should unlock their potential, draw attention to themselves, and understand and embrace their unique identity and responsibilities. It seems like corporations might enslave us here, and we'll all be absorbed into them, becoming just cogs in the machine, or we can, as individuals, start to shine and make our presence known, as you've said.
Awakening Through External Conditions
Svetlana [1:05 - 3:18]:
How will this unit manifest if it's not awakened to all of this? Because it's so cute when everything is idyllic in life, there's no point in thinking, taking actions, making decisions. There's no need to make decisions, everything is taken care of for you. But it's like a catalyst that provokes us to wake up. If everything was so cute, we'd suddenly wake up and be like... This is some very powerful educational process.
Of course, corporations will do their thing. The world is not so straightforward, it's multifaceted and multilayered. In one layer, some people live beautifully and just live. I heard someone from Chile say: "There are some warriors over there fighting something, but over here, everything's fine, it's all good, we're just doing our thing, we have business, we're learning, everything's great". There are different places, times, and states.
Question of state. We desire an external world that corresponds to our wish, and the internal one is for later, and maybe if they tell us that everything is good with you, and we are inside, we will feel good too. But all this leads back. That is, it means the inner world, when you are able to discover it within yourself, it starts to work, this is alchemy literally, we do not believe in it, and all that we see, all this information, the mainstream denies it, denies it specifically, but what do those who shape this do? They suppress us emotionally, so why is information now the main tool and weapon of enslavement? Nothing, it's precisely the information, because it influences our ability to create our own worlds, our own sense of reality, our worldview, which then takes on a material form. So we simply, as we were taught in political economy a long time ago, matter is primary, everything else is secondary, but it's the other way around, so...
Consciousness Frequencies and Branches of Reality
Interviewer [3:18 - 3:51]:
I understand that information is currently being forced upon people, overwhelming them with fear, and fear paralyzes a person, draining energy, making them more manageable, and thus, they do their work. That's what I wanted to say about this, we are on this scale of states, you say the state is crucial, I agree with you. There is a transition, as far as I understand correctly, in the branches of reality, right now we are, I don't know if this is the right way to call it.
We sync with events and phenomena at the frequency we ourselves are at. If we're in fear, that's a low frequency, so we choose these branches of reality, because I remember when I worked with this and moved up through frequencies, I left for higher states. In my life, events at the same frequency started pulling together when you're at a high level, first of all, you possess a certain strength, and they even say that when you pass 200, your consciousness shifts from destructive to constructive, and you start feeling a connection from above. Because such a person is given energy; they're constructive for this world, which is less than 200, they're destructive, so they're all disconnected. They draw energy from food, emotions, and sucking each other in.
I just remember this transition when you don't even need much food, when you can just observe. Thus, we can change and manage our worlds while we're in them. If we watch the news, we get sucked in, right? We're even the authors of such simple co-occurrences here.
Parallel Worlds and Escaping Simulation
Svetlana [5:05 - 8:47]:
Then just consider, look, there are corporations, there are people playing their game, they're afraid over there, some are kind of stuck in mediocrity, while others live in a completely different branch of reality, where other people experience entirely different events. We have a very poor understanding of how all of this is structured, that maybe you're already living in a different world, because it's not as straightforward and banal as there being one world, Earth, like this historical picture suggests.
In essence, when transitioning to other states, you're living in different worlds, and when we ask what the Mandela Effect is, it might have simply been in a reality that now matches yours, but it didn't there, and so on. Essentially, we don't fully understand that even if we start with the fact that we have a brain, you say, the brain, mentality, consciousness, what we call consciousness. But our sensory organs are so limited because they're only suitable for this interface, this game, this simulation, however you want to call it. It doesn't let us go beyond; someone else is in control of the process, but the possibility, let's say, where this possibility of exiting this simulation is located, the perception itself.
We can't fully exit it because the material world is limited, but we start to control it when we begin to at least understand this. Understanding distances us a bit from it, and we're already capable of ironic detachment from it, do you understand?
I mentioned in one interview a certain Morozov, who spent 30 years in prison, just completely. And he wrote such works that are not even fully appreciated because it's an achievement. And if he hadn't been in prison, he would have been, in principle, one of those who... attempted to assassinate the tsar and all that sort of thing, so he had this ambivalent history. That is, in principle, the conditions we find ourselves in can be optimal for development, you understand? And these conditions are now optimal for us.
So there are these tests that some people failed due to COVID. Well, simply put, the second group failed the test because, you know, I had this story. I participate in a competition, and there... Well, not that I was participated in, people participate. I observed an adult male, he was jumping on such a frisbee, a healthy horse, and it's a rare story for us. And then the SWO starts, and for some reason, I don't see this guy, I think, where did he go? I think he had such a horse. I ask, "Where is that person?" He says, "Listen, you know, when the SWO started, he says, 'How dare you jump on horses during this? We don't have the right, to have fun like this?' And he got cancer and died very quickly.
Do you understand, yes? Here's an example, just to illustrate. That's why we live our lives, we appreciate them; it's a remarkable, almost magical tool. We can use our hands, experience the taste of food, do things that many in the world can't, and perhaps suffer from happiness. So, it's easy to become a slave to events that are shown to you, and even without participating in them, you've already formed this narrative in your mind. That's, in a nutshell, how it works.
Predictions: Scheduled events and Trump
Interviewer [8:47 - 8:53]:
You mentioned in our correspondence that there's something that will create a stir, this information. Are you ready to share now?
Svetlana [8:53 - 10:19]:
Yes, the furor - that's what I've recently discovered, how all this story unfolding before our eyes with Trump, for instance, is actually planned, not spontaneous. Sometimes it seems that someone, the one we see, makes a decision, and we stick to that image, waiting for the next move.
I observe when you make what seems like a personal forecast, and when a person faces a challenging situation, and you explain how it will play out from an energetic perspective, the person, by processing it, doesn't necessarily become a participant in it, understand? It starts to dissipate, as if melting away, and he only sees signs that it was meant to be, and he might have anticipated something, but it all smoothed over.
Therefore, when we understand that all these geopolitical issues and this whole economic blockade that happened are related, well, I've been saying this, to an energy deadlock. I wonder how this will play out. There's an energy deadlock, I understand that, so there are certain theses, terms that you can dissect if you really delve into it, but there are some important milestones that, well, will probably happen in the near future.
Important Milestones in the Next Few Years
Interviewer [10:19 - 10:25]:
Let's go through the important milestones over these two and a half years that you've mentioned.
Svetlana [10:25 - 11:26]:
Well, it's going to be a bit chaotic because when I make predictions, I gather facts, and then they form a coherent picture for me, and I start to understand something. And if I'm not talking about what Trump might say here, I don't know about Rubio, this, that, it doesn't mean we won't see it-we just need to understand the implications, right?
I initially approached it by seeing that 2028 is a very challenging year, that, in general, there are no rules. We're witnessing this now, this break from the past. By the way, what's happening with Russia now, as if we need to, I even wrote it down, probably read it later, forget about the old Russia. Our principles, the way we loved and knew her, she's different in the new world now, and we won't recognize her until she restarts to have the strength for further action. And perhaps a natural factor will take over and completely shatter this politics, and nothing will be left, because under different conditions... there's no logic we're expecting.
Interviewer [11:26 - 11:32]:
Should Russia expect colonization? Is there potential for such a scenario to unfold for us?
Forecast for US and Russia
Svetlana [11:32 - 14:08]:
I don't think so. I've seen other processes. They're just tearing everything apart, and the surgeon himself is sick. He's not really focused on capturing this body. There are just some distant things happening.
But here I just saw something like this. If, for example, we take the US, starting from the end of this year, around December 26th, a very strong breakdown of the aggressive reconstruction of the US begins, I write. And here you need to understand that this will not happen instantly, there will be some fluctuations. And at some point, it seems that America is quite strong, and everything in that spirit, but processes of rebooting have already started in terms of leadership and many other issues. And it can be seen that, for example, in November-December Trump will do things that seem like he is about to disappear. But it seems that despite everything, he will still stay, probably for longer.
There are just such stars that are not only planets, they are stars, one of them is Alfard, when a person possesses such power, he might have come from high worlds with a very cool soul, but he couldn't cope in the material world with those ambitions, the crown he put on himself, and such things happen. And he continues to act.
Just America is under the microscope even in December with very serious catastrophic events that may be linked to natural processes or technological processes. In general, the system is unraveling, and planets will figure out how to do this better, but this is just the first step, it's not the most crucial.
By February, I'll write about the fall of the king. In fact, how this theme of total power, its capture, is connected, of course, even to this summer. But this is just the first step to say: "Guys, we live in a different reality, things will be tough now, you'll see a lot on your TV, but it's very important for you because you'll stop believing in idols, in some invented heroes." It will be like a theater performance. It's all about steps. And by the spring of 2027, a more critical situation arises for Trump and America.
The Crash of America by 2029
Interviewer [14:09 - 14:18]:
Vladimir Zhirinovsky stated that overall, the collapse of America has already been calculated by Jews or whoever, I can't remember. He said America has no future.
Svetlana [2:18 - 4:59]:
Well, here we are in 2029, 28th, 29th, and it looks pretty scary for America. I think it's both an economic crisis, but we're a bit ahead, it's also a catastrophic natural event. At some point around 2029, the balance of power between America and Russia will change drastically. Surprisingly, Russia will start to rise, despite its current weakness.
I believe that by spring, everything will look critical for America, with Trump's decisions and economic choices. At some point, even it might seem like Venst will take over, especially in June, as the situation is dire. But he won't last long, even if that happens. In general, I write down that America is changing categorically, moving into the past, the old America. There will be disasters and all.
For Russia, too, June is generally considered the 27th, along with the 28th, as somewhat dangerous. There are radical changes in power taking place in Russia during this time, which is like a permanent process. Initially, there may be proposals to have certain individuals take this position, and we... It appears more loyal.
By the 27th, everything transitions into a category where we see all the mistakes turning into economic crises, into everything negative, and it will seem that Russia is somehow very aggressively inclined. In reality, for Russia, the 27th and part of the 28th look very volatile. It's very acute, very conflictual. I don't rule out that there will be tough decisions, economic, even internal decisions, when such austerity may arise in the country, which will probably be challenging.
Russia will likely have to get involved, and perhaps even take the lead in some military-related events, and this whole story, I'll be more precise later, but probably until spring 2028, unfortunately, something like that. But it's still strange that Russia remains somewhat bipolar within itself, as if there are different decisions on one side and different decisions on the other. Even in foreign policy, things are splitting into two camps. And talking about any kind of justice, everything will be quite unjust.
Interviewer [4:59 - 5:00]:
Unjust for the individual.
Destruction of the Legal System
Svetlana [5:00 - 6:10]:
Well, generally, for a person. And now we're observing that there are no rules, not even diplomatic ones or any regulations. It's just not working. And here we see the bottom of the current processes, as if we're witnessing a breakdown.
I write that the legal field will be severely destroyed at all levels, including on the foreign policy stage. Russian authorities themselves will provoke a military atmosphere, and around August 27th, there will be an attempt to rationalize the ongoing events, as if we're trying to bring order and normalize things. Economically, it's very complex, especially to be seen in September 27th, with laws continuing to be reformed, but it's all absolutely unconstructive and unproductive.
Honestly, it's even difficult to articulate this, but this whole atmosphere, both military and destructive, and very dangerous, I mean, we will see the dangers for the main person [editor's note: for the President], but even before that. In general, all this will last until the end of 28th.
The Possibility of Revolution in Russia
Interviewer [18:10 - 18:13]:
Is revolutionary action possible in our country?
Svetlana [18:13 - 30:20]:
Absolutely. But they seem to start with some kind of peaceful alternative, and then it turns into a murky period, with economic difficulties in forming any strategy.
When I look at long-term actions, I can't predict everything. For example, when I talk about upcoming events in Russia, it will probably be clearer. By December 28th, there will be an attempt to stabilize all these processes, to find some peaceful solution. But the strong economic downturn, more like a major economic downturn, a crisis, starting in spring 29th. All progressive processes are slowed down, including technological ones.
However, despite this, here we are, living to see the 28th, and Russia will somehow be indirectly affected, though many other countries will suffer greatly. The year 2029 is extremely critical for America. I'm not sure it will remain dominant, I'm not sure it won't fall apart, not only due to internal problems but also due to geographical and natural factors. Nature is very restless.
By the way, I can't read everything here, but in Russia, by the 29th year, there might be a shift in the center of power. That is, for example, the capital won't be Moscow, but Siberia. I see very significant dramatic events in Siberia almost every year until 2029. These are natural processes, economic collapse, and so on. And then, around 2029, everything starts to rebuild.
So, I write that the most challenging reload times for the US will come in the third decade of January 2028, and more precisely, for America, the most intense shocks will occur in stages around January 22, 2028, and March 28th, and it is at this time that the balance of power between Russia and the US shifts. It is unlikely that Trump will still be in office; he has about a year left in his term.
Yes, it starts there, it's visible that by 2028, America will begin to decline in all internal processes and so on. Very tense situation, even if Trump makes a lot of mistakes and walks very carefully on the edge of a knife, as, for example, in deep fall-winter, on the 26th, and especially acute situation will develop at the beginning of April 27th, which is already next year. And there, everything is already critical, very close to a power change, and it looks very clear. The US is in a state of complete crisis. And a very dangerous situation for the US. Directly explosive. This is June 27th. And there is also a conflict within the team. And apparently, at the end of June, or maybe on the 27th, VENS might somehow claim some position, but it is unlikely to last long. That is, big changes in America in the summer of 27. There are earthquakes and anything else that can happen. I won't go into the details here.
I would say, as of December 2028, Russia, being in this state of aggressive opposition in the international arena, and even the general chaos in the agricultural sector, there will, perhaps, be an attempt to stabilize everything around that time. Spring 2029 will be tough for everyone, but Russia will somehow manage to stay on the sidelines, starting to revive itself afterward. Although it won't be in the best shape, many countries will find themselves in a critical situation. This will be due to both nature and post-conflict, perhaps military conflicts. That's how it appears.
Upcoming Events in Russia: May-August 2026
Now I will say something about some of the closest, that is, Russian issues. May is starting, and it seems like Russia is transitioning into a completely new mode of life, as if it is completely detaching from its previous ties to history, breaking away from its previous information, influencing history, and the processes of Russia's interaction with centers of internal governance. All of this, in general, is irreversible. But the freedom of thought, which will be so powerful that it will destroy all these imposed rules, will be the first signal for such a rather revolutionary situation.
I write that events will manifest as the first signal for a revolutionary atmosphere and the arrival of a new era, with new approaches, those that go against established viewpoints, a too sudden leap in the country's information field relations.
Then, around May 17th, that's another very crucial moment in time, as if there's a need to decide how our Russia will build relations with the outside world on its political borders. Perhaps events will slightly blur or make it unclear, but it will be clear that we must choose for ourselves where we're going. But since Russia's economic status is currently nothing special, because we have oil and all that, then the question of expanding our territorial boundaries will add, as if, optimism. Optimism, but I wouldn't be impressed, because it's not all that simple.
June 16th will also have a significant focus, with potential issues related to both water and other unpredictable forces. However, it's a confusing situation where half of the people will get entangled in false scenarios, almost as if they are being manipulated in the information environment. Spiritual questions and concerns about nature will be very important, but the processes involved are so unclear and few will interpret them correctly. It's a complex time, and many misconceptions may arise. Some will believe it's a nature rebellion, others that it's a lie by the powerful. But it will all seem inadequate, vague, and fanatical. This is a harmonious time for Russia, more akin to a quest for truth and misconceptions.
Meanwhile, the beginning of July marks the start of a new reality. This is indeed the case. It will impact the information environment, ushering in changes in the information power structure, and addressing cultural and artistic issues. It could resemble a temporary thaw in the country, with new appointments in the country's leadership. However, this won't be a significant development. It's more of a shift in atmosphere and preparation for more substantial changes ahead.
July 7, 26th year, everything is at stake, key questions of the country's territory, decisions on key directions. There's a feeling that somehow we need to define what resources we have in the country and how we manage them. I just think that even if it sounds optimistic, it's still a matter of external circumstances, to which optimism has little to do with.
And so, important global events begin to unfold in the 20s of July, and that will determine the course of history in a global sense. The struggle for sole leadership in the world, a sharp struggle with explosive drama. And it will become clear why we had such problems with the internet, blocking, and so on. It's about the war for cyberspace, and it's not an easy story. It exists behind the scenes, and it's clear that there will be some kind of division because it will be a field of a special battle. And it will become clear that something is happening even at the global level regarding this cyberspace.
At this time, political figures on a global scale will begin to change. This will be a signal for the removal of crowns from leaders around the world. It will become clear that the time for a global, worldwide change of elites has come. It's all leading up to July and already August. But this will not happen in a single day, although time may unseat very many.
And on August 1st, there is political and foreign policy activity, ambitions on the foreign policy stage, but they will not be pivotal. The horn for Russia will sound closer to August 12th. This will already be the beginning of global changes in Russia's power. A long path of categorical changes in the country begins. Especially emphasized will be around August 17th. The beginning of the departure of the former architecture of power in Russia, all of this may be accompanied by loud resignations, rotation in power structures.
By August 28, many things will start to surface that will provide an opportunity for even more radical changes, both within Russia and in its foreign policy relations. So, this is building up, a crescendo, as they say in music. The events will be of a particularly fateful nature, especially in terms of restructuring relations with foreign partners and Russia's position in the geopolitical coordinate system.
Russia will be faced with an important question, but also at the government level, a global shift could occur in October, and there is a possibility of total resignations from key positions in the country. The picture of the departure of the former management system will become obvious, fateful for the country. This is a historical turn and a new domestic course that will still have its continuation. There will be many more changes.
We simply need to understand that the main point of disintegration and the beginning of attempts to create a new reality is July-August. And since a new reality on a global scale is impossible without Russia, but in the form it currently exists, it also cannot continue to exist. Therefore, we will simply observe the transformation of Russia, placed under certain conditions, where, as we, as a person observing and thinking, wonder how to justify all this, how to correctly position ourselves, so the country should also restructure itself to be able to continue positioning itself as a stronghold of further historical events, because, judging by the collapse that will occur at the economic, military, technological illiteracy, and non-ecological levels, we will certainly get the full program in 2029, but it will completely rearrange the geopolitical chessboard and then reassemble.
But we are already at the start of this gathering. As humans, we experience events, perhaps dramatic ones. The planets are literally saying, "Please consider how you would assemble this mosaic, what you would turn it into." And as these processes unfold, it's like physics-as different sounds play, remember, magnetic particles form a pattern. Now, other sounds are playing, and we are simply in the process of observing as they disperse to form a new pattern. But this takes time, because the material world has the concept of 'time,' and it requires some patience to see the result over time. And that's the situation we're in.
The World Divided into Economic Zones
Interviewer [30:20 - 30:28]: Will the world be divided into economic zones after the US loses its influence?
Svetlana [30:28 - 31:40]:
I cannot put down this story just yet, because things are still... There is no such thing as us coming in and creating some harmonious picture, nothing is happening. Even in 2036, there were very heavy events. So, it's difficult to talk about stability now, but since the economic ideology, the ideology itself, has run its course, it needs to find ways to restructure, but everyone in our camp wants to restructure it in their own way.
However, since global processes are restructuring at a level, let's say, with different trends, what is being offered to us, corporatism and these questions, they may still be fluctuating today, but they do not align with Earth's further physical setup. And this is a very serious matter, because you cannot joke with the delicate world, and we are having a very delicate connection with it now, and all thoughts become reality instantly. So, if they become reality, perhaps we can take advantage of it.
New Era: Laws and Principles
Interviewer [31:40 - 31:51]:
When you said that a New Age is coming, how should we understand it correctly, what is this New Age, and according to what laws will everything be based?
Svetlana [31:51 - 36:13]:
I will now explain these terms, which may be complex, or perhaps these categories don't go together. But imagine, there was matter by itself, living its own life, and we had a god somewhere, who was creating this matter. It was unrelated to the material world, because it was a material world, while he was in the subtle world.
And what happened now is that when divine penetrates into matter, into its structure, and the structure unfolds and disperses, becoming more flexible with the participation of the divine. This is a conglomerate of the new world, which has no rigid boundaries, like a direct order, everyone lives like this, and all this happens in a sign related to a person's personality.
Do you understand what I'm saying? That's because in each one, a different structure of spirit filling and a structure that allows it to both enter and reproduce on matter is formed. That is what was previously not combinable. It's uncombinable things, when stone is launched, I don't know if you can melt it. And soon, perhaps, the technology will become the most obvious.
And at the same time, when God, conditionally, or some divine spiritual things manifest through matter directly in full form, it's all connected to a different water structure. That is, water as a coding factor, we are made of water. And in general, water is the solaris that reproduces all our thoughts. It's currently being coded in a different way, and we're starting mentally, there are a few stages of our growth.
What happens after April? Well, it's not instant, and not everything changes at once, but it's, first of all, a different mindset of free thinking, like this. So, at a physical level, this intellectual activity is being restructured. In general, all these steps towards renewal, starting with the mindset, who am I? I come from God, I am structured and I will build, you understand, all these concepts make a person different. He separates himself from others not in the sense of "I am alone, I am individual," but in the sense that, as a particle of God, he should be of quality. And this doesn't mean that everyone should be of one mind. It means that you can be in this company because you have found this qualitative leap on your path.
And it's clear that many diseases, say, they seem to be related to such a mismatch in brain activity, intellectual and so on, and so on, and so on. There are so many nuances, we enter a period of completely different energies, meaning they cannot be built on previous laws, meaning society cannot be built according to these laws, and every person. So not individualization from the point of view of such egoism, but from the point of view of taking responsibility for oneself and independence, of course.
So there are a lot of feelings, a lot of insights, a lot of loneliness for self-knowledge, like that, very much. And all these processes seem disjointed, while at the same time, if this is a performance on the external, say, screen, other personal qualities are being formed.
To be honest, I don't really like grand phrases that make things seem unattainable, like some kind of fantasy. No, if you've witnessed strangenesses in your life, and we all have, they're not strangenesses. They just are. The subtle world touches us, and we don't realize that we're the masters of the creation of the subtle image that will live, like Pygmalion, creating Galatea. And if we create, we need to understand that Galatea can either destroy us or help us. So, we should think about what we're creating.
Personal Experience of Connection with Self
Interviewer [36:13 - 36:29]:
You mentioned that in the New Age, material connects with the Divine, and that every person should realize and understand who I am. I had such an experience last summer, a deeper than usual dive into myself, during a specific session.
Svetlana [36:29 - 36:31]:
I think it's some kind of life experience, right?
Interviewer [36:31 - 37:32]:
It's a bit trippy. I was connected to myself through destructive parenting from a young age. I grew up in a dysfunctional family. I had to adapt to life circumstances, and I didn't know my position or opinions. I had to agree with older people for survival. It was a very tough childhood.
And I didn't know, even at 40, who I was or what my opinions were. In every situation, I adapted to the opinions of those around me. In essence, I was disconnected from myself. And last summer, while in this state of awareness, I realized that there's this strategy of adaptation within me. I saw within myself, within the structure of my personality, that it's tearing me apart and doesn't allow the flow of energy within and outside of me to connect, to give me this power where inside me it connects divinely, and the energy of the Earth.
Svetlana [37:32 - 37:34]:
And it's harmoniously structured.
Interviewer [37:34 - 39:08]:
It's structured, connected, and through me, through the Creator, where I become the Creator and start to create this matter. This is where the connection happens, this power is within me, where I can create this matter, where the divine flow and this material meet. They connected, and I was right in this immersion, I saw where they connected, where I saw this strategy, where it completely covered, where I didn't know who I was, what my opinion, my values, where I was going, what my calling was. I didn't know any of that, I was muffled.
As soon as this connection with myself happened, here I am, this is my opinion, I am. My opinion is based on my core values, everything. And this connection of the descending, ascending flow within me occurred, and I directly felt like I had gained this personal strength, where I become a true creator, where, as you said, it should manifest materially, both earthly and divinely.
And here I realize, when I hear you, that this New Age and this connection must happen through a person, that is, through you, through me, through each of us, those who listen, then it will happen. That is, we should really then disconnect from this flow of information, from these matrix illusions, we should disconnect, we should dive within ourselves, learn, and then this will happen... not be led astray, not be these marionettes in this world, then we are only feeding and feeding this system.
Svetlana [39:08 - 39:20]:
And I even thought that here we need to learn to even interpret what's happening, not in the sense of how they tell us: "Here's what will happen", but why, yes, everything, yes, like that, yes, and understand why, and that means we're not there anymore.
Interviewer [39:20 - 39:35]:
I just wanted to emphasize, first of all, to tell about this experience, and stress that, as I understand, it's all supposed to happen through people, every individual should find this personal power, and, as it were, God can work through our hands.
Contact with space and the test of strength
Svetlana [39:35 - 42:09]:
Indeed, this planet, as it descends, it's a divine signal, it crystallizes within us. So, the "we" in "us" becomes solid, in this very essence. Not in the sense that you meditate there and then go do something else, or get hurt or work or whatever. But it's like this unit of God, a whole, material unit of God.
There's something else, let's say, like this. We have a kind of fanaticism, we sometimes veer into religious extremism, yes, something like that. This planet, which is entering a certain zone at the end of April, it gives us clarity of perception, without pretence, and even more, it symbolizes the arrival of the opportunity for contact, a clear contact with extraterrestrial or non-human organizations here, that is, it opens our eyes to the fact that we should now enter into friendly relations with space.
Who are these people who will enter it? So, imagine, how much input in a short period, what chaos in people's heads, what chaos in the world in general, because the incompatibility of the new entering the old world, it, of course, now we just observe as if, you know... wanted to take out the trash can on the way, it kind of fell out, and all that, and we have to clean it up, and everything in such a spirit.
That is, one must, presumably, be able not only to filter this, but, as you rightly said, that feeling of "I am, I exist, I am a part" - we, in fact, are a part of that experience, the experience that we are currently going through. It says: "Well, let's do this. You are this small, let's say, form, ..." a private form, not small, a private form.
And so, in a way, if you are so consecrated, enlightened, yes, not just glowing and smiling, but it means being that whole link. Not someone who moves it here and there, but a whole link.
And by the way, since the personality, as we perceive it, is touched upon, for many, this test of strength becomes very painful, physically or morally, and we can observe this now. But it's a question of individual awareness. Can you extend a hand? Yes, a crutch? No, it won't help. That is, in any situation, awareness of oneself as an important character in this story, in any, generally, life context.
Psychological Maturity
Interviewer [42:09 - 42:34]:
I think another crucial step for each of us entering this new world should be such psychological maturity for each of us. Because I had this idea, this thought, when you were talking about our relationships with the state, it's like a child-parent relationship, when I'm waiting for this parent to come down and take care of me.
Swetlana [42:35 - 42:37]:
That's very infantile, isn't it?
Interviewer [42:37 - 42:45]:
Infantile, of course. And, of course, such a person wouldn't be able to exist in a new world. Basically, this whole model should collapse.
Swetlana [42:45 - 42:52]:
Yes, we are victims, yes, these are victims, and we acknowledge that, and already... We want to live happily. But if you are a victim, you have already chosen your role.
Interviewer [42:52 - 43:08]:
Yes, of course. Then this model should collapse. And the task for each of us is to grow up. And when we interact with the position of adult-mature individuals, not only among people, but also with adults-mature individuals in our state, then
Svetlana [43:08 - 43:46]:
I think we need to learn this. We cannot master this science instantly and become adults. There are those among us who need... These are also our teachers, metaphorically speaking, where we should show some generosity. We understand that you may be explaining, my language is complex for some, for others it's simpler, some understand, while others don't.
But honestly, I'm surprised by the amount of intriguing rhetoric nowadays. If you just look at the networks, you'll see that he's 17 years old, yet he's explaining things to you that we, as adults, couldn't articulate. It's really fascinating, I think it's phenomenal, but no one ever emphasizes that it's a phenomenon.
A New Generation and an Era of Change
Interviewer [43:46 - 43:59]:
There's an idea that a new generation, born in different circumstances, with different energies and consciousness, as they grow up, there will be a significant shift.
Svetlana [43:59 - 44:23]:
Yes, because all this geriatric power, it kind of leaves the stage, and the new ones, when you look at them, they don't really need war. They don't even see war as a necessity. They understand that they've already played computer games and know how all this works. So, the narrowness of this world's consciousness didn't even allow them to look at it from the outside, let alone see the bigger picture.
Interviewer [44:24 - 45:04]:
I will work out my thoughts on aging. You are all saying the right things today, as you have done many times before. Everything you have said about predictions will not just happen like that. It will only start to unfold, to emerge, yes, and gradually. And here, in principle, I remember my childhood-parent relationships; I, you know, what I realized, we are all from the Soviet Union, and therefore, that generation has these ingrained patterns, which, most likely, at this age, the mind is so deeply rooted and frozen that it is impossible to change it. Accordingly, this change of generations is exactly what is happening, and it will happen slowly, in this new century, with new generations coming.
Mature Generations in Search
Svetlana [45:05 - 47:11]:
Well, I actually observe both new and mature generations, and I want to say that mature generations are also very mature and in search of these models. They are not in some completely dead, stagnant state; they are looking, they are seeking ways to solve problems.
That is, it looks and feels very profound and inspiring, and we've never been so concerned with the task of, well, doing something, learning something, there were other tasks entirely, and many of those here now, continuing their lives, didn't do so by chance.
So I think when we let this idea into our worldview, accept that there are those who understand something, someone doesn't understand but feels something, someone else's life continues to teach them, but not all at once, we aren't... we don't all sing in harmony. And when we accept this, this concept, it's global, it's so surprising, inspiring, and delicately crafted.
We tried one story with masks, then another. Do you believe in what you're doing? Something's off, something's not right with the faith. Something's wrong with patriotism, right? What is this concept of patriotism? Perhaps it holds a very deep spiritual value that's being exploited in another way, right? And we start to approach it differently, and we rise above it, we ascend.
And here we have a few more of these, let's say, checkpoint items, but nonetheless, when looking at the planetary setup, you realize that everyone who is open to embracing the new time, starting somewhere around July, enters a state of readiness to act with new factors, entirely new settings. The thing is, some resist these settings, some have come, sailed, because they've been doing things the way our, so to speak, economy has been set, based on different settings. If we have to restructure ourselves somehow, and these icebreakers that we can't turn around, it's not that simple.
Economic Bottom
Interviewer [47:11 - 47:19]:
Regarding the economy, I understand we're still heading towards the bottom? When will we reach this economic bottom?
Svetlana [47:20 - 48:39]:
Well, I think it's mostly the 29th year because, in reality, we're thinking optimistically over here, but over there, on that pole, it's a different situation. We're launching this whole program, this corporate program, in the 26th year, and we'll implement it in the 27th. The 27th is dedicated to implementing this program, and on this path, we'll encounter various circumstances.
So, yes, we're moving forward and will see how they try to do this. But we're different people, and we just become stronger, more powerful, smarter. And it's a very interesting intersection of human maturity, dedication, and enlightenment with this arrogant form. I don't know, the examination of one's intellectual capabilities by those who try to do this. It becomes funny to us because it all becomes transparent. It's just an amazing story.
And once again, I want to return to what I feel and what I see in many of you, this happy impulse. That's something we shouldn't lose; it's our possession, and we'll build our lives on it.
Critical Mass of Awakened Individuals
Interviewer [48:40 - 48:59]:
I was at a training session, and you're talking about the happy impulse that's coming from me. We were told that when this critical mass of such people is reached, and it's actually quite small compared to sleeping people, because sleeping people don't have any personal power.
Svetlana [48:59 - 48:59]:
Yes, yes, absolutely.
Interviewer [49:00 - 49:05]:
And these people, let's say, the awakened, conscious ones...
Svetlana [49:05 - 49:07]:
Yes, I understand, they have this "I am" thing, right?
Interviewer [49:07 - 49:17]:
Yes, "I am," yes-yes-yes, those who possess this power, they are literally a small percentage there, less than 10% of the total mass, this shift will happen.
Svetlana [49:17 - 49:18]:
This is what they fear.
Interviewer [49:19 - 49:30]:
Yes-yes-yes. That's why, yes, right now, I understand that some processes are happening to delay, to dampen it. I think the process is irreversible.
Svetlana [49:30 - 50:09]:
Behind all these external events, there's an invisible, powerful, rational wave that can't interfere in time. Yes, we can't fight them with pitchforks like before, and so on. And I love Pasternak's phrase, "Seventeen Moments". If we act like them, we'll become like them. That is, our strength lies in a different method, not resistance but construction. Resistance leads to further problems, but when you simply turn away and do your own thing, you don't have time for all this.
Personal Responsibility and the Meaning of Life
Interviewer [50:09 - 51:03]:
The meaning is not to look at external circumstances and wait for something to happen, but each person should, why we are going into this age of individualism, each person should sit down and look at their life, and do something about it. Think about what specific impact I have. I only impact my own life, my own world, myself, and what surrounds me, instead of trying to sit back, ignore, or curse about what's happening somewhere, even not in our country, but far away. Why and how are we getting involved?
And about building personal strength, recently, one of our guests talked about Viktor Frankl, who is a Jew, a doctor, a psychotherapist, who developed logotherapy in a concentration camp, where he spent, I think, 4 years.
Svetlana [51:03 - 51:04]:
Something familiar.
Interviewer [51:04 - 51:16]:
And he wrote this book "Say Yes to Life" about the meaning of life, he wrote about it, he noted that people who have a purpose in life have found that purpose.
Svetlana [51:16 - 51:18]:
What kept them focused on all of this.
Interviewer [51:19 - 51:24]:
Yes, those who understood why they needed to survive in a concentration camp.
Svetlana [51:24 - 51:24]:
The mission.
Interviewer [51:24 - 53:21]:
Yes, for what greater purpose, what task do I have to survive. Sometimes these people managed to stay alive. Through some intricate web of these events, those who gave up, they were done, I, I couldn't escape, it's all, my fate was sealed. And yes, they morally fell, they didn't even recover before... now this has come, they were dying from disease, hunger, and something else.
How important it is to understand, and it happens after self-determination, who I am, that we are together, what is my talent, what is my purpose in life, my destiny, for something I was born to know. Here, I'm not just eating and shitting, eating and shitting, of course, I speak so crudely. For some, their form of existence is expressed like that, but to find some great meaning, it's always expressed as if it's my mission.
Victor Frankl had to stay alive to finish this book, to see it published and shared with the world, with people. It sounds like making a contribution to this world, when I came here to give something, not to take. And each of us, yes, God has given each of us a seed of talent, this purpose, this potential that we should unfold and give to the world.
And these people, that's why they remain alive, according to Victor Frankl's description. Even when his turn came, he was on the list, scheduled to be sent to the gas chambers the next morning. Unbeknownst to anyone, the train didn't arrive that day, and it never did. It would arrive every day, every morning, and take people away, but when Victor was put on the list, he remained, and the train never came.
Svetlana [53:21 - 53:45]:
You agree that this is very connected to the fact that one cannot deceive themselves. That is, if you distort something, this path immediately disappears, but when you believe, understand, and know, you follow this path. This, in fact, cannot be a task that one sets for themselves. Not everyone has such talent, such concentration, or such a possibility of being passionate about something.
