A Little About the Beyond - Interview with Sergey Grankovsky from 01/23/26

A Little About the Extraterrestrial - Svetlana Dragun's Interview with Sergey Grankovskiy on 56 Channel, January 23, 2026

Sergey: [0:00]Good day, dear friends. Today in the studio of the 56th channel, a unique person, a super-professional in their field, a very beautiful woman, Svetlana Dragun. Hello, Svetlana.

Svetlana: [0:09]Hello, Sergey. Thank you for the compliment.

Sergei: [0:11]
I am incredibly happy to see you.

Svetlana: [0:13]
Mutual.

Sergei: [0:14]
I've wanted to invite you for a long time. Something always got in the way. I don't know why. Perhaps the stars just weren't aligned correctly. Now they seem to have finally aligned.

Svetlana: [0:25]
Everything always happens on time.

Sergei: [0:26]
You're my guest. Welcome.

Svetlana: [0:28]
Welcome.

Sergei: [0:30]
I think the least we want to do is venture into the realm of predictions and all this stuff - individual, personal, group predictions for 2026, because I've seen these predictions made for countries and individuals. I'd like to discuss something a bit different. And when I called you, we talked, and you suggested a topic that really interested me.

Svetlana: [1:04]
I suggested it as a starting point. Well, it was about historical processes, how they unfold, about the overall factors and who influences them. I'm getting a lot of information from people who send me that there's someone who's guiding the process, probably living high up on a mountain, and from up there, they're observing and, so to speak, taking steps.

Sergei: [1:32]
Very high mountain.

Svetlana: [1:33]
Yes, very much. Well, supposedly, this mountain is... I just assumed because it was mentioned Liechtenstein, and I know the prince who lives there, he lives on a mountain. People always look for a center of control among people, and generally, it seems like everything is happening according to his plans.

Sergei: [1:56]
Who is this prince?

Svetlana: [1:58]
No, no, it's just one of the versions of what's happening. The prince is the prince of Liechtenstein, who is quite a capricious person, to say the least, and has no connection to our topic at all. I'm just saying that people often try to find a guilty party or someone in charge of all processes.

Sergei: [2:24]
To justify their inaction, ignorance, and so on?

Svetlana: [2:28]Well, maybe the latter is more so, yes. If we were aware and understood the uniqueness of such processes, we would probably look at everything differently, seek reasons, and so on. Well, I'm going to suggest a few of these plots that will make you think. We were talking on the phone, and I suggested discussing a certain Morozov who tried, in principle, to calculate the past astrologically. I also had a similar idea, and I started to look into it - I noticed a certain planetary geometry that hints at grand processes. There was a similar geometry in the 1700s, but by 1880, it had turned into reality - America, the dollar, and the whole philosophy we preach now, the remnants of which we are still fighting. There was a noticeable history of the destruction of the old civilization, and so on. It's clear that when you approach turning history into a narrative and explaining it properly, it's hard to believe. But there was a brave man who did it. He wrote a work that you probably read a little - "Christ," right? He was actually a very multifaceted person who made many discoveries, and to some extent, he even preceded Mendeleev, who gave him the chance to become an academician, I think. So, this ability to see history and events through very important planetary indicators works as both a retrospective and a prospective tool. If we took into account how events actually work on a global and personal scale, we might look at everything differently. Many historians of the new generation did use this knowledge, and we understand that history is not only shifted but also distorted. It's distorted quite seriously, because it doesn't quite fit in our heads that there's a need - such grand buildings, amazing culture, paintings, and somehow it should intersect with something very primitive, right? It doesn't quite align.

Sergei: [5:21]
It doesn't make sense at all, in my opinion.

Svetlana: [5:22]
Well, yes, that's right.

Sergei: [5:24]
Take these new Sobyanin buildings, for example - before, they built Khrushchev-era flats, but now these square ones, I don't understand what's going on.

Svetlana: [5:30]
Well, yes, that's right, right.

Sergei: [5:31]
Look at the same St. Isaac's Cathedral, for instance. If you... Don't understand.

Svetlana: [5:38]What there aren't economic rules, right, in general, far away. We see other values, and values determine technologies, right? So, technologies aren't necessarily gadgets, right? There's something more serious. And I'll propose another interesting version. It's not a version - it's a reality. Tesla, who died in a hotel in New York, who, at that moment, seemingly invented a time machine, about which they later talked about chronofrequencies and the possibility of time travel, or perhaps even planning time. And Tesla dies - the uncle of our now well-known current president of America, somehow miraculously takes these documents from Tesla's remains. And, of course, it's commented that there's nothing special there, it's just all such nonsense and, in general, a farce. But, at the same time, a person living next to Tesla in 1893 writes a three-volume book. Two volumes are dedicated, in general, to Baron Trump, Baron Trump, yes, the well-known one, his journey. Aren't you aware of this?

Sergei: [7:06]
No, I only came across this information literally yesterday or the day before.

Svetlana: [7:11]
Yes-yes-yes-yes.

Sergei: [7:12]
And there are historical intersections.

Svetlana: [7:14]
Yes, I just, well, I suggest this as, let's say, a point of reference that we can, in principle, rely on when building some versions, although maybe even talking about a version is not the point. The idea is that I will just outline: this Baron, on his first journey, generally finds a manuscript of some Don Fu, right?

Sergei: [7:41]
Yes.

Svetlana : [7:43] 
Donna, please excuse me, but it basically says that there are such underground passages, and basically they are under Russia - that's a metaphor, yes. And Baron Trump goes into these underground passages, tunnels, and basically different things happen there. And thanks to these tunnels, the third volume appears, where it's about the last president - that's what this volume is called, yes?

Sergei : Yes, that's exactly what it's called.

Svetlana: Which, surprisingly, lives on the same street, Fifth Avenue - by the way, I also lived there for a little while and met Trump there - and, moreover, he still has a vice president, Pence, unfortunately not Vance. And so on and so forth. That is, the number of coincidences, its destructive functions regarding the entire political history, the dollar, the economy, and so on, and so forth. And all these intersections. Then you know about the NASA founder, yes, who wrote a book called "Project Mars," where there was some Elon who sent everyone to Mars?

Sergei: [8:57] Yes, too many such intersections have been appearing lately.

Svetlana: [9:01]Yes, when we start reasoning about events, about the search for a guiding core, prospects, and so on, even the concept of will, if you will, we tend to use traditional psychological concepts - what we thought, what we intended, what happened, and so forth. Not taking into account that there are systems and very serious technologies that we cannot even perceive as technologies. For example, the place of Khorro-Khorro - is probably known to you, right? And all these tunnels and so on, attempts to find some records, maybe some technique that has perhaps rotted away but still exists. No one has any idea that events unfold in conditions of completely different technologies - those not related, as we said, to hardware. So, if we simply add our understanding of how all this works, who controls everything, and perhaps Earth processes, including pyramids, are intended for energy, time, space, and optical questions.

Sergei: [10:24] It's an obvious fact for me. In fact, we had another recent meeting with Dmitry Pavlov - one of our main, perhaps the main, Egyptologists in the country.

Svetlana: I saw it, yes.

Sergei: And we have these conversations with him behind the scenes. The first time he visited, I told him: "Do you realize, do you understand that the pyramids weren't built by humans?" He said: "No, that's not it, it's all just people." Three years later, he told me that we had some off-the-record conversations with him, and he said: "Now I'm 100% sure that they weren't built by humans, and they were built remotely," because there are no tools, no remnants - I don't know, gears, any kind of mechanical remains that would suggest how it was built, but there's nothing.

Svetlana: [11:16]
And have you seen videos, not just one, of the pyramid flying and correctly positioning itself?

Sergey: [11:21]
Videos.

Svetlana: [11:21]
Well, simply, yes, for us it's always associated with construction, something we understand. But in reality, it's done very simply and quickly, that doesn't even cross our minds.

Sergey: [11:34]
A little differently, yes.

Svetlana: [11:35] Yes. And, by the way, all these questions - if they seem eclectic and disconnected right now... Recently, I came across materials on boat immersion in that very same New Schwabia, that is, the underground kingdom. And the entire guidance was absolutely like this: on the one hand, it's all about maritime navigation language, right? And on the other hand, it prescribes astrological combinations, and you can see by the time that at specific moments, for example, so many knots should be passed, and you should stop here. That means it's all done at specific points of planetary interaction. What does that mean? That portals open, that there's an entirely different backdrop, other opportunities. Not only the formation of portals, but any kind of event. For example, this interesting chess game that allows, at least, to understand... We didn't set it up, we're not the directors, and generally, not even humans, in fact. But by the way, those who are above humanity are also subject to these same laws. And when we begin to understand that events - all this series of events that seem spontaneous and chaotic to us - are not related to chaos at all, we just perceive them that way and we should. So, of course, the entire series of different, seemingly unrelated things on this topic brings to mind only one thought: if we were aware that we could, perhaps, not so much intervene, but use the portals or energy impulses that come at certain moments, and we, for example, encounter them.

Sergei: [1:49 PM]
Yes, we should at least realize what this is. And then maybe start using it. 90% of people don't believe in this at all.

Svetlana: [1:58 PM]
Why not? No, I just think that those who go to a professional consultant, let's say an astrologer - I don't only consider myself, but any professional astrologer - they start to understand that it works. It first evokes admiration, indignation, and in general, goes through several stages.

Sergei: [2:21 PM]
Then comes acceptance.

Svetlana: [2:21]
Yes, then, yes. Then just as a guide to action and as a tool. Because such things are not an easy, accessible topic overall. It's easy to talk about Zodiac signs, it's entertaining, it's funny. But when it comes to taking personal responsibility for understanding these processes - that's responsibility - well, how then, where are the guilty ones? What do we do if there are no guilty parties, then?

Sergei: [2:50]
Listen, we can't really take full responsibility for ourselves, can we? And as for who's to blame, of course, we understand who's to blame.

Svetlana: [2:59]
Definitely not me. So, I think that's what the conversation is about. That we can't - we can't believe that, because we wouldn't be looking for guilty parties. That's all.

Sergei: [15:08]
In my view, the key problem is that people are afraid of all this, afraid to take responsibility, afraid to settle into new knowledge. I've said many times that I communicate with people from the Academy of Sciences - yes, that's how it happened.

Svetlana: [15:28]
Yes, I understand.

Sergei: [15:28]
Such professors, respected people - when you try to convey something new to them, they're afraid. They're afraid of losing faith in what they've put their life into, which turns out to be working differently now or always worked differently.

Svetlana: [15:42]
I think it's also about social status, yes, and the loss of status.

Sergei: [15:47]
Of course, of course.

Svetlana: [3:47]
And now there's no time to be afraid - not to be afraid.

Sergei: [3:50]
The club immediately has problems. Admitting to yourself that you're somehow...

Svetlana: [3:55]
So, when we say that someone believes, someone doesn't - it's a matter of freedom from these social stamps.

Sergei: [4:06]
From dogma, yes.

Svetlana: [4:07]
Just stamps, because everyone is afraid to break away from the system. And everything that's happening now is the destruction not of a person, but of systems. There's nothing to be afraid of, right? You should be afraid of staying in a dying system.

Sergei: [4:19]
Of course, in any case, we'll have to play by new rules, in any case.

Svetlana: [4:24]
Well, I guess so.

Sergei: [4:25]
And if you don't want to play by new rules - well, accordingly, you'll be out of the game then, if at all.

Svetlana: [4:31]
Well, overall, I think, yes, I’ve always wanted to somehow distance myself from this kind of teaching - how we all should live, and everyone should understand something. I just think it’s a very natural process. Some people find it interesting, and others understand and explore it from this perspective. As soon as they start exploring it, they distance themselves from imposed circumstances, stop playing this game, you know. That’s a victory. It doesn’t mean resisting anything. It’s just the ability to look at everything from the side. And it still starts shaping another kind of personality. And since we are given these topics, more and more people are interested in them, they are touched by them, and they start to not trust the mainstream as much.

Sergey: [5:26]
Of course, of course. These are cosmic processes, they directly affect what happens to each of us.

Svetlana: [5:33]
Well, of course, yes, yes, yes.

Sergei: [5:35]
You mentioned Nikolai Morozov on your way back, right?

Svetlana: [5:39]
Yes, yes, yes.

Sergei: [5:39]
An amazing person. When we talked, I didn't know about him. Well, I knew about Nosovsky and Fomenko. Everyone knows about Nosovsky and Fomenko - those who don't know him? Everyone knows. Everyone knows about these two amazing people. But, it turns out, there was a person who was a beacon, a process they embodied, so to speak.

Svetlana: [6:29]
And focus.

Sergei: [6:30 PM]
And focus on something, maybe in a single cell. He, therefore, thanks to this, has put in so much work there... Yes, he there and, in general, how an electron is structured, I think, what he has unveiled.

Svetlana: [6:41 PM]
Yes, and he beat everyone.

Sergei: [6:48 PM]
Yes, and at first, there was no paper or pencil, he sat there and, therefore, memorized all of this in his head. This is unique, in my opinion, - not to recognize such people, in my opinion, is a crime.

Svetlana: [19:01]
That's right. Furthermore, if we go back to what he was trying to say and what he was basing these questions on, it was mostly about eclipses that shape all processes - global historical processes, especially when they're total eclipses. It's like a reboot and the next cycle, reboot and the next cycle. The scope and quality of this reboot - it's readable. And there wasn't a single battle, not a single war that could bypass this factor. So, this factor was a provocator. Therefore, of course, he was coming from a retrospective of these questions. And there's also such a number of planets that confirm absolutely new intergenerational guiding trends that changed people's worldview, their physics, their psychology, and so on. So, as soon as we rise above all this chaotic material process we're in and detail it, break it down, and don't see the whole, playing by our own rules doesn't seem possible.

Sergei: [8:19]
As for, by the way, Фомenko and Nosovsky. Imagine, people just took and used - simply used the work of someone who remained, so to speak, behind the scenes.

Svetlana: [8:31]
I even read that he was then still quite naive, made mistakes, and everything was reversed. He is the key to all of this.

Sergei: [8:40]
From your perspective, as for these processes happening now, how predictable can they be? After all, the area of predictions will be affected. How predictable can the consequences and sequence of events be? How, based on this knowledge, can we still build this logical chain?

Svetlana: [9:03]
I just don't want to talk about myself, I want to talk about science itself.

Sergei: [21:07]
I'm talking about science.

Svetlana: [9:09 PM]
I've been in this field for a long time, and we constantly provide some kind of confirmation - like a chronicle of how it's interpreted globally and how it turns into reality from the perspective of the average person. Of course, it's not just working - it sets the main tone. And everyone who's in charge of power is the main key that plays this melody. And these keys can't even go sharp or flat. They only work in A major. And it's this connection to this matrix space, a narrow but maximal one, and they're not free people, they're not their own volition. But we understand what it is. If, for example, we used this navigation that's outside of our usual lifestyle format, we'd realize there's a maximum accumulation of energy. Sometimes it's aggressive in terms of events - there's war, something like that. But actually, it's a geometric angle, let's say 90 degrees between very strong planets, like Uranus and Pluto - that's a very explosive situation. So we understand that this is energy flowing through a very thin wire, creating a lot of tension. It's a tool for either building something very quick, instant, powerful, and controlled, if we don't fall into this aggressive context. But not understanding this, we start to fight. That's how it looks for us. The picture is so colorful, it's distributed according to the quality of energy, its format, its impact on a specific area, and the dates of its activation. I don't know if it's appropriate to bring up such an example, but let's say I'm working with a horse, it's always a risk, there's always a chance of falling, and we've been through this many times. I had a day coming up that was supposed to bring big problems with this, and they even described what it would be like for the horse. There was an offer to participate in a program I didn't really want to be in, but I chose that option. Yes, I had some troubles, they were all the same, but I avoided any physical injuries and even more dangerous things for myself. The question of choice arises in the context of this sketch, no further. Of course, you can paint it with your own colors.

Sergei: [24:12]
But the form will... Is what I hear you saying correct, that regardless of how the state of the planets relative to each other programs certain events on Earth, human will or the collective will of a group of people is still able to, to some extent, soften those events or perhaps even redirect them?

Svetlana: [24:46]
That's true. The question is, what is our natural perception - let's say, when you're sitting tense, thinking about how to turn things around. As soon as you understand where the wind is blowing, emotionally stepping away from those inputs, only then can you not only make a decision - from a logical standpoint - but also not be involved in that energy-wise. Because there's a pot in which everything is boiling. One really wants to approach, either to warm up or to take a sip.

Sergei: Have a taste from it, yes, if you want to.

Svetlana: So, if there's even a possibility to make this pot, I don't know, for yourself... Not that it's unacceptable, but you're not playing in it, it's not interesting to you, it's not tasty to you, this borscht is not tasty to you.

Sergei: [25:42] 
Don't pay attention to it.

Svetlana: [25:43]
Yes, you just understand how it boils. And then you're on the side of choice and opportunities to somehow regulate processes, at least your own. Because we each live in our own world, we always offer our world to each other. Okay, meet someone else, he says, nice, outwardly nice, yes. But it's just a teaser, yes. And actually, this world he comes to you with and touches it, it's both promising and dangerous at the same time. So here, if we live and we have a world, this layering of space - it exists not at the level that everyone is unhappy right now. No, not everyone. Yes, and far - there are very happy people. The ability to create your own world, not trying to be the one who restructures all processes and so on, that's a different song. You can, of course, intervene, but after first obtaining your own world, building it, when it's a pole of attraction and other smaller planets are pulled into it, of course, you'll go along with it.

Sergei: [26:58] 
By changing within, we change...

Svetlana: [26:59] 
Yes, the physics of the process is obvious here. You're just a tiny magnetic particle going in there, and it seems like you're bringing order. For you, this special magnet might not be very obvious, but it leads you down the path you should take at the center of this matrix.

Sergei: [27:18] 
But still, from my point of view, no matter how strong the magnet is, or how small the particle, by internally transforming and energetically transforming yourself, you start changing the world around.

Svetlana: [27:33] 
And this magnet... It just makes you expand, right? Your orbit gets larger, and you become...

Sergei: [27:40]
And thus you can also change your fate.

Svetlana: [27:43]
Well, fate, yes - what changing fate means, it's also a kind of thing.

Sergei: [27:47]
Fate, from my point of view, is a sequence of events that are prescribed to you in your incarnation. And then either you go blind into it, or you change something about yourself, then the event sequences change. I guess that's how I assume.

Svetlana: [28:05]Well, I understand, yes. But if only there wasn't one "but": every person has their own degree of freedom when born. There are absolutely free people. They can do whatever they want in this life, and nothing will happen. And there are people with so-called karmic angles, and when they have too many, they seem to be squeezed into certain frames. Because they might not have something, or they seem to be unlucky in something. In fact, it seems bad to them, but in reality, they've already made a mistake somewhere, they're just slightly held back to prevent them from doing too much, otherwise, it would be worse.

Sergei: [28:38]
Here we run into the issue of people thinking in terms of just one life. They don't realize and are probably afraid to accept that we don't live just one life, and all this karmic history accumulates from one life to the next. We're so good and beautiful, and we don't understand why things happen to us this way. I mean, I haven't done anyone any harm, yet these things keep happening to me.

Svetlana: [29:05]
Well, yes, this series, when you see a trend in it, when we can assess it, then we can understand overall, where is all this going, why, for what purpose.

Sergei: [29:14]
This isn't just on a human level, it's at the level of state interactions. All of this, in principle, works like a system. And we see the breakdown of this system that was imposed on us. The magical component also works. Planetary, interplanetary, and space interactions, and, I don't know, everything is interconnected, in my opinion.

Svetlana: [29:45]
Yes, of course, all of this works very interestingly and, generally, isn't found in the information sources where we read and see it all.

Sergei: [29:56]
Well, the fact that we live in an interesting time, one that, in my opinion, allows us to take a step back and realize who we are here.

Svetlana: [30:10]
Even coercive.

Sergei: [30:11]
And coercive, even if you don't want to do it yourself. It's a wonderful affair, a wonderful time.

Svetlana: [30:17]
Yes, I myself think that this is a happy time, because here is where freedom, will, manifest as never before. But everyone seems to think that someone is leading someone else somewhere. But if this fear exists, then you sit and wait for every terrible event that just shows that you're on the right path - you're fearing correctly.

Sergei: [30:37]
Absolutely correct. This is a very interesting time. And perhaps we should wish for our viewers to find support during this turbulent period. First and foremost, they should make certain choices for themselves, right? This is a time when choices matter a great deal. Because if we just float along in the lower centers, what can we achieve? Nothing.

Svetlana: [31:07]
Yes, I understand that it's more of a philosophical call to action. But practically speaking, it's about being able to turn off the TV, reduce the volume, and just be present with yourself. It's not about listening to your breathing organs, so to speak. It's about suddenly feeling a motif that's present in your life right now.

Sergei: [31:32] 
Allow your soul to feel, to hear it. It's whispering, crying, weeping.

Svetlana: [31:36] 
Well, it's easier for you because, as I understand, you're in practice, right?

Sergei: [31:40] 
It's easier for me because I've been doing this for 20 years. But I also started from somewhere.

Svetlana: [31:45] 
Yes, I understand, I understand. Just when we... Our people are probably watched differently, right? And some, as soon as we switch to a very familiar slang of such metaphysicians, it starts to annoy, I imagine.

Sergei: [32:00] 
It's mostly not your concern, you know?

Swanlan: [32:04]No, no, I'm not worried. I just want to say that there are very ordinary things, very common. When, for example, something happens, even in politics, you need to ask yourself: what do you think about this? Because as soon as you start listening to someone, and there are many opinions, and everything - you just grind other people's opinions, and you have no clue, you don't know what a clue is. A clue is the first thing you need to do: take a deep breath and listen to what you think about it. It's the right decision. And in general, let's say, we live in an era of endless preachers and experts, and this is what blurs the whole story about individuality.

Sergei: [32:51]
Experts, as Mikhail Hazin calls them - wonderful people. Bloggers and experts. That exists. But once again: I'm not forcing anyone, I'm not calling for anything. I'm just sharing my personal experience. There's experience interacting with people who are trying to understand themselves. Ask yourself three questions: who am I? Why am I here? And, basically, why? That's all. And answer these questions to yourself. It's simple.

Svetlana: [33:25]
No, these questions are asked, in my opinion. Just "who am I?" - "I'm a pawn being guided by Shvab." That's the answer to these questions. It's the answer of those who find it hard to take responsibility.

Sergei: [33:41]
The times of Shvab are over, thankfully.

Svetlana: [33:43]
I'm saying this conditionally, of course.

Sergei: [33:44]
Yes-yes-yes, fortunately. But you're quite right, lately - especially now that my daughter is 20 years old, I can see this - there have been attempts to dehumanize people completely. So, what do I mean? We've never taught anyone or been taught by anyone, in principle. The key point is the ability to hold attention on a process, to concentrate, the issue of attention concentration. This is the most valuable, most important thing that is not taught. And now look: clip thinking, information for 30 seconds, maybe even down to 20, information is perceived for 20 seconds, then the next information - 20 seconds. There's no chance for a person to learn to concentrate on a long process. If you show young people a movie like "17 Moments of Spring", will they watch it? Because it has to be constantly flashing.

Svetlana: [34:43] I think there's also a not-so-simple story here. For those for whom this is close and for those for whom this flash doesn't matter, those, let's say, not knowing the meaningful series of people, yes, with such a technocratic setup, such, I don't know, scripts like that. Those who... There's also another youth, and I have to communicate with them for various reasons.

Sergey: I agree with this.

Svetlana: Yes, so we can't even - if it's not offered to those expecting this clip-like content, they'll find it elsewhere. That is a device that might be, it's kind of a projection for us - how we shouldn't be, how it acutely hinders us, how it completely negates all human factors. Something needs to be a dark mirror to understand what a bright mirror is. So, at some point, yes, it was even trendy to summon, to call for this - let's enlighten ourselves. Everyone perceives it differently. Some don't eat anything - that's how they enlighten themselves. But the point is different: it's some inner need to rise above all this, to feel ourselves outside of, let's say, these forced circumstances, and somehow understand that your body and all this matter - it's a tool. Because, as we understand with you, only in this changing material world can the very soul, which has a chance to change and increase its luminosity, do something, right?

Sergei: Of course.

Svetlana: [36:26] If you're there, you'll be in the same percentage as before. We come down here to grow, to allow this changing world to test our abilities and...

Sergei: Yes, the soul develops through overcoming.

Svetlana: So I think those who have it don't need it - first of all. Second, there are probably extras.

Sergei: [36:51]
Well, yes, we come from different worlds here, each of us has their own task, that's clear. But still, these events that are happening now at the level of space, at the level of Earth, I think, from my perspective, they're still our last chance to make a choice.

Svetlana: [37:09]
The thing is, if we translate from astrological to human, there's a starting point in astrology. The starting point in the human body, behind the head, is responsible for thinking, for the first impulses of what you do. And everything that's happening now is very strong, right after February, a powerful influence begins on processes related to the head, logic, intuition - everything we associate with awareness. Everything fits in here - our expertise of something, logic, illogic, and the combination of systemness, intuition, these updated processes in the brain from a physiological and metaphysical perspective - that's what's going to happen. There was a first planetary push of this possibility, then it receded, and we got stuck again in this mud. And now this sudden surge, naturally, if we translate it into the language of natural processes, part of which we are ourselves: this renewal of nature, the creation of completely new structures and concepts, the dismantling of illusions on the one hand and immersion in a completely different concept on the other. That's what's happening, and no one's asking anyone who's ready for what, who's not ready. It's as if those who will perceive these processes difficult, because it's really hard to imagine: you're reborn, it turns out you knew nothing, worse, you're alone, and you need to either understand, or be aware of, or feel, but you're not ready, and everything around is boiling. That's a very powerful creation process... Simply, a new era - a new generation, a new nature, the renewal of the entire material-structural process on Earth. And we, of course, are already the result of all this: we don't lead this process, we're not the initiators. We either understand it - we understand why it might be difficult for us, or inspiring, or something happens to us - and we don't attribute it to something being poured on us from above. We simply understand that this process is unstoppable. Because the struggle, the one that's happening now, shifts everything, just not looking at anything. Like, the old things are already getting boring - you don't go through there, deciding what's needed and what's not, you just throw them away. And this process is starting now.

Sergei: [39:54]Well, interesting things are happening. Take, for example, artificial intelligence. Lan Mamayev - we sat with him, we talked - he says: "Look at this differently. Look at this as humanity's last chance." Filter, maybe. There are a lot of excuses from everyone: I don't have time, I need to feed my family, I need to close some... They give you artificial intelligence, and it takes over the responsibility for you to be fed, and so on. At least this should finally make you understand that - well, you're already freed from everything, so do something with yourself, become something, do something. If not, then what?

Svetlana: [40:48]
There's one more hidden story about artificial intelligence. It's not just about autonomy versus non-autonomy, or submission to it versus resistance. It's completely... We're at the entrance now. It's shaping a completely different social environment. So, all previous schemes, economic, corruptive ones, when artificial intelligence is present, they start losing their power. And unnoticed by the person who also fights against it - but he always has to fight with someone, that's just how it is - we're transitioning unnoticed to a completely new environment, a lot will be abolished that is no longer needed. And if someone encounters such a synchrony of this intelligence - it's right in front of him, that's the most artificial intelligence - well, there are probably such people. But for those with creative potential, it's a fire inside, it lives, it needs more time, more opportunities, and so on, and so on, - they will use it differently. We can't stand still. And this, say, is part of the acceptance we need to keep in mind. Because in addition to what I said about the update happening there, very serious things are happening in the scientific environment - they will start showing up in full force around late April. So, it's not just... The word 'democracy' doesn't quite fit. There's such objectivity and transparency in the information environment where someone else's opinion, which is supposed to be authorized by some authority, no longer passes. Authorities no longer work. Objective reality works. And technologies that allow us to perceive this objective reality. The flow of information is so instant, so fast, and the scientific process is developing so quickly that this distribution - we're already divided, yes - this division is happening according to different laws. But life moves, it can't stand still.

Sergei: [42:59]
New rules.

Svetlana: [43:00]
Yes, and, say, everything is shifting entirely in a new direction, but we can't escape the digitalization of processes, we're only just starting with this. And this is just the beginning, because it won't be fully realized until 2027. And this economic environment that's now stirring and has already become somewhat unnecessary - there are more serious processes at play here than our individual clashes with this parameter and this testing of our humanity.

Sergei: [43:34]
In your opinion, will humanity be able to navigate through all these changes and innovations without war?

Svetlana: [43:42]
Well, there will be serious challenges. In particular, in July, on the 20th, plus or minus, I won't go into specifics right now, there will be challenges that will be even more serious. They are more dangerous against the backdrop of our consciousness upgrade. We think we've already reached this point, we're right on top of Mount Everest, and now we have to decide whether to jump or, so to speak, pray to the sun. But no, that's not all, there are higher peaks we'll have to climb, which will demand a lot... The farce, this farce, needs to dissolve at all levels. This applies to culture and everything related to traditions - who is our king, our tsar, and so on. This concept will be destroyed. And it will be a painful process, and I don't rule out very acute situations. But when planets take such positions, they have a choice, as I mentioned: either create a highly dangerous technological explosion situation, a very serious one, or create a cosmic threat. There will be a sharp situation there. And this is all part of the tests, the necessity for humanity and all earthly processes to upgrade. So we think about ourselves, just about ourselves, but what Earth needs to go through right now - that's everything, and no one will be spared, it's impossible to avoid. And as for the leaders, they will face a crisis situation, and the leaders will fall. It's like all the crowns will slip off. This is a very serious situation because we're dealing with a geometric figure that was so stable, unmoving, and suddenly it burst open and disintegrated. And we wonder: who will now manage us? How will everything be now? So I don't think everything will be smooth. But the conditions - a new, upgraded consciousness that's also entering life quite quickly - present a new factor on one hand, and on the other, a new factor that will demand a new 'king' in all senses of the word. And as a final part of this test, which is not the final one but one of the most important, how did this Trump, the baron, go into the passages under Russia, and found many things - other worlds, other spaces, that's what this is about.

Sergei: [46:34]
That's what this is about.

Svetlana: [46:35]
But he went. He went, and I want to say that it turns out there are other worlds and other spaces in Russia.

Sergei: [46:40]
So we need to go there.

Svetlana: [46:42]
We're talking about something else now, I'm talking about something slightly different. That this space is also becoming mobile for us, starting from August and onwards, because it's key. And if these tunnels suddenly collapse - the whole Earth will collapse. And this is also...

Sergei: [47:03]
These are test moments. Why, in your opinion, would it not collapse?

Svetlana: [47:08]Well, we can go very deep into the metaphor now, but it's not really dependent - the update is planned and written down. That is, the update at all levels, which is a very serious matter. We haven't been touched by such things yet. Yes, economic processes, yes, information and so on, some such things that we thought - we need to properly manage the issues of the device, let's say, geographic, how all this is now. It's all great. But when it comes to Russia itself - not so much in the structure, but as some kind of organism that...

Sergei: A new assembly point.

Svetlana: Yes, exactly the assembly point. And what is an assembly point - do you understand that it contains last names, concepts, and methods. And all these parameters will need to change. And when this happens - which will be sometime around August and continuing until next February - the understanding that these processes we must intelligently go through, is a big and important task. And we must not turn into someone we see and observe - different personalities and countries. Therefore, preserving some inner closeness to some higher matters - I would say, if you will, to space - I don't say this completely because Russia's map tells a lot about space. And this change in guardianship, if you will, yes, we understand that architects, civilizations, and the educational system rule. And above them, there is someone else who rules. So, if we understand that we are a projection of this upper war, what remains for us to do? If we understand this, we are already moving beyond a simple human status. And this, perhaps, is the evaluative factor: if you are able to understand that an architectural restructuring is taking place at a completely different level. Those who want to participate in it and make it their life - that's a different thing. It's not something they choose, but if it happens to someone, I just want to say right away: there are no bad or good people here. There are those who came for certain goals, and they may end up at the center of these turbulent events, and this doesn't mean they are not good - they may be very high souls, just their task is very painful. And sometimes it results in a vertical takeoff to completely different levels - we are talking about metaphysical levels here. But if we knew how valuable these metaphysical levels are, what we came here for to be in a completely different state... This is what we live now - we solve immediate tasks, of course, we don't have time to think about this level. But as soon as we remember it, some kind of protective light and strength descends upon us because we are part of the organism of renewal. So, as soon as there is this awareness, some strange salvational factor begins to accompany the person. This is also something we have observed.

Sergei: [50:58]
Swan, thank you for the very interesting conversation. I hope it's not the last one, we'll continue it in our upcoming broadcasts. And I'd like to wish our viewers, perhaps, to find support during this turbulent time. First and foremost, perhaps, on themselves, make certain choices. This is a time when one must make choices. A lot actually depends on it. If we believe that we're just small pawns here with no influence, that cosmic processes will just continue as they are, regardless of how we position ourselves towards them or towards ourselves, then, in my opinion, that's a deep misconception. We all influence each other and the cosmic processes that occur. And a lot, actually, depends on our choices, not everything, but a lot, including collective ones.

Svetlana: [52:01]Well, I would probably add that we're not just small pawns. The thing is, gods have descended to Earth at this very moment. I mean, they're not just regular people, no matter how they might seem. Because not everyone - we remember our generation of fathers, mothers, grandparents, great-grandparents - would be able to handle seeing all that's happening. But we somehow find the courage to live through it, understand and accept it, and remain human. So, I think we sometimes don't notice the heights that live within ordinary and extraordinary people, no matter what. So, maybe with respect for each other and understanding that this advanced level has come here... To ourselves - as much to ourselves as to others - a completely different community is born. That's why I'm for not being afraid to stay true to ourselves. This will attract completely different circumstances. And, probably, communities will also organize themselves based on the quality of our self-relation.

Sergei: [53:12]
Of course. Like attracts like.

Svetlana: [53:16]
Yes. Thank you.