From the height of an eagle's flight, with a difficult news
From the perspective of a bird's flight, with a difficult message
Introduction
Svetlana [0:00 - 0:04]
We will see completely different pictures. There are big problems, both economic and environmental.
Interviewer [0:04 - 0:10]
Svetlana Dragun. Everything you spoke about in your New Year's addresses actually happened.
Svetlana [0:11 - 0:22]
Starting in July, we can say we're entering a completely new and pivotal phase. But actually, very remarkable things are happening. Awakening, awareness.
Interviewer [0:22 - 0:26]
In terms of finance, politics, and socio-political issues, they will be dismantled.
Svetlana [0:26 - 0:42]
We stand right on the threshold of change. We face an even harsher situation ahead. Europe and the West in general, they're not just talking about war. They're truly preparing for it. Now, Russia, what do you have to say?
Interviewer [0:42 - 0:43]
When will it end?
Svetlana [0:43 - 0:51]
We have keys simply to these years. Angular distances of the planet, which will continue until spring 29th year.
Introduction and meeting topic
Interviewer [0:51 - 1:37]
Good day, dear friends! We meet again on my channel "Life. Name. Own". We write "Life" with a capital letter because we respect it, pay attention to it, and are grateful for it.
And I, Marina Mikhailenko, present to you my guests who teach us, show us exactly how our life unfolds before us.
Today, I have an amazing guest - Svetlana Dragan, an economic and political astrologer and practicing astrologer, a future researcher.
Svetlana, I'm very happy to see you in this studio, in conversation with me.
Svetlana [1:37 - 1:38]
Likewise.
The Turning Second Half of the Year
Interviewer [1:38 - 2:01]
Yes, thank you very much. And, you know, we meet right about in the middle of the year with you.
Everything you spoke about in your New Year's addresses actually happened, we saw it in information guides, in the media, we witnessed the events you talked about and warned us about. But we have to live through the second half of this year. How will we do that?
Svetlana [2:01 - 14:11]
I always think about how to fit such global events we're facing into one sentence, and in my opinion, we're literally turning a completely new page in every sense of the word from July onwards.
And people's fate, of course, includes the geopolitical and economic environment, and generally, it's a new energy format that will demand completely different impressions from us.
We'll see completely different pictures, and perhaps they will be, in a certain sense, somewhat theatricalized. Although the script's rigidity hints that we'll take everything very seriously, of course.
Well, as humans, we live this life, and if we had certain initial inputs in the first half of the year, then starting from July, we can say we're entering a completely pivotal phase where the elite will seek to become the sole mentor, dictator, in the space that emerges.
But perhaps unknown or unseen, things won't stay this way.
Everything will proceed differently, of course, but these hot events of July will be exceptionally important.
Since we have many different plans and directives, we're also interested in Russia and certain regions, for example, I hear complaints from Crimeans, and the situation there is indeed complex, and it seems to be escalating, though perhaps after around June 18th, I can't remember the exact date right now, because it's hard to remember both dates and events, it might seem solvable, and perhaps Russia will feel stronger, if we can say that now.
However, the question is what we expect from our territorial capabilities and potential, how we will manage them, how we will generally shape future relations, because the geopolitical landscape is taking on a new, quite heated and contentious form, and it's clear that long-range predictions have said that July will be very important for either Russia or Israel, as it's also very serious and very dangerous for Israel.
Given that, literally in the 20th of July, the planet aligns into a very rigid, very heated combination, it will, of course, provoke hot events. This is an ionized context. Everything will be heated up, from the temperature of the air to the overall events, to some strange, exaggerated, even operatic mise-en-scène of important figures who will be in direct conflict with each other.
This is the moment when elites, one could say, will collide in a unified impulse, to ask what exactly is happening behind the scenes, what is actually going on?
We're talking about how awakening, awareness, all of that has become so familiar and, in general, even unperceived. But actually, very surprising things are happening.
I mean, I don't even know if I can take a brief distraction to make it clear. So, when we observe events, we think, how do we intervene now, how do we set the tone now.
But we should understand that all events, everything that's happening, we ourselves, our biological component, and everything that happens to each of us, when we speak as if about a matrix, we're saying that there's some kind of source code, if we use physical words, it's outside our reach, it's encapsulated, separated, and we can't influence it, and that's why it's very difficult for us to be present in our inner world, in this interface, and this form of control over us requires, finally, our engagement, I mean, that force which is a kind of curatorial force.
And if before we were somehow separated and acted, well, how we acted, just acted, in these matrix-like, so to speak, patterns and structures, now this code is changing, and if you imagine when this original code changes and how it will affect the entire environment of this interface, of course, there's no talking about everything being neatly organized, of course not, it's not that simple to just delete old programs and annihilate them.
Moreover, it's not being erased randomly. The planets are aligned in such a way that one planet, which symbolizes a certain new level, a new code, a new degree of spirituality, let's call it that. Everyone interprets this differently, so to say.
Some believe it's a cultural level, some think it's some kind of prayer, but in reality, it's about a new level of our inner awareness, not an external environment.
Now we will witness this farce.
And this farce, of course, will drag along those who didn't want to participate in the first place and also those who, generally, assumed they wouldn't be part of the elite that requires these tools in the form of people who don't feel these things.
And here is the very planet that immerses us in a new level of consciousness, and it does so collectively. That is, each of us thinks, wow, something is happening to me. But it somehow differs from what's happening to my neighbor. He speaks different words, while I speak these ones.
It doesn't matter what words we speak. This filling that's happening within us is... a simultaneous signal for all. Of course, perception, multiplied by age, experience, and so on, are different matters.
But if we look at what we hear on screens now, how young people talk, it's entirely... a different sphere, a different atmosphere, because this search, whether right or wrong, doesn't matter. But the need for this contact with something else, not what's being offered, is quite obvious.
And here, perhaps, is the part of people who can be torn out of this flow, this current ratio of that group of people, even, I would say, a mass of people, because this planet deals with issues, let's say, of such...
I would perhaps give an example, like how fish in a school swim simultaneously. Each one of them is a fish, but their consciousness, this is what drives them into a completely new direction. And it doesn't require a struggle, it doesn't require resistance, it's a necessity.
It's like inherent properties that require manifestation.
That part of people who feel they are just part of a game, that something else is behind all of this happening, not only other motives, but other primary sources, that part has stopped, observes, takes some action, but mostly seeks some inner strength, some internal status from another.
But there are those who are absolutely, as they assume, material and rational, and this reason drives them to constantly observe some dialogues, characters, to fight in this, who is right, who is wrong, and the inability to see the big picture.
This is, of course, a dangerous perimeter in which these people find themselves. They are, in a sense, the unconscious victims of the dying elite's game, in the way we mean it now.
So, perhaps the collision of old and new energy, the desire to rule and the absolute need for some release, but at the same time, the imposition of such a powerful, militarized, almost totalitarian scenario that can manifest in anything.
It's such a unified canvas that will manifest.
There are also other processes involved, cosmic ones, as this is, after all, a projection of what is happening in the subtle world. And in the subtle world, there is also war, struggle.
It doesn't have such, well, let's say, side scenes as we see here on Earth, but it now has a very important, demonstrably dangerous appearance. And we may even observe some dangerous cosmic phenomena, we can observe technogenic catastrophic phenomena.
That means everything will imply to us that a new script enters life. But most people, frightened by this new script, of course, will perceive it as the beginning of such total destruction, she said. That's exactly how it will be, externally, that's how it will look.
But in reality, this is the last game, the last battle, which is just beginning for our country, at a minimum.
And so, to not forget, we started talking about Crimea. I am embarrassed, I fear to mix it up, but I think it's the end of July, 29-30. There is a risk of such a volatile push, there will probably be attempts to blow up the bridge.
But there will be more than one such attempt, there will be attempts in October as well. I hope we can withstand it somehow, and overall, the feeling about Russia so far has been relatively one that inspires respect.
But here too, we should not get too excited, because we are standing right at the threshold of changes that will require a complete reorganization from us, and this will not be an easy process, followed by even more serious ones.
Nevertheless, it would be good if it were understood that our involvement, generally speaking, within that group of people or, as I even said, among those masses of people who have understood this and realize that the situation here is not so simple, understood that there is something real behind it.
And if we now interact, and this third force, let's say, which enters into some kind of contact with each of us in its own way, because we are all different, then this point of support, of course, is internal, and this external theater, well, it needs to be filtered, recognized, and understood that, yes, it is a theater.
Can one remain an observer?
Interviewer [2:11 - 2:30]
Svetlana, you've mentioned several times that a theater or a performance will unfold.
Can one, armed with knowledge, foresight, and imagining how all this will unfold, remain an observer, stay on the sidelines, and watch this performance from the first row of the balcony?
Svetlana [2:31 - 7:00]
Well, of course, this should be followed by an answer. But it's not an easy task. We're all participants, not just observers.
What's happening to our Earth, to our planet, is the fading of an old civilization, and I'm about to share a historical fact, something that essentially suggests that if we came here for some inner growth, it's clear we don't see much beyond this interface we're immersed in.
We can only hear and see what's reflected in our cones and rods in our eyes, yes, and so on.
But if we allow ourselves to consider that everything is much broader, and all the experiences we go through here are some form of evaluating our inner strength, which we currently find difficult to sense.
Well, it's just to understand this, to see this, after all, we see how processes develop. No one can stop this historical process now. We face an even harsher situation ahead. Everyone, when faced with a harsh situation, often finds themselves in different positions.
Therefore, of course, the further apart the perspective, the greater the preservation. But at one time, I had such a video come out, it's from my webinars, which I have on astrology, chiromancy, and other related knowledge.
Here, every person, when going through some life situations, with that sign, with that feeling they go through, they give off a certain "flourish," let's call it that, like some degree of possibility, like some energy that sets the further chain of their events.
That very sketch, it will happen as if, but we color it with our own colors.
If a person is given such an opportunity to get into some banal, rude conflict, shows himself as rude, further on, and these situations repeat to you immediately, as it were.
You find yourself in this circle, and your trajectory cannot change, it goes that way.
And if your perceptions change, and you're able to assess another's mistakes not from a place of anger, but from a place of understanding, perhaps even some generous remorse, however you wish to put it, then you're emitting a different flavor. It acts as a reflector.
You send out this signal, you receive another signal, which elevates you to a certain level of eventfulness.
You'll proceed according to your schedule.
So, don't think this is a lack of will. We want to manifest will here and now. And will is understanding the highest design, the reason for which we're here. That's more complex than simply, say, going to argue in a store or getting angry at political players.
This understanding that you're in this world, you're an observer, and you're experiencing perceptions.
And if you're able to assess the big picture, truly, not getting caught up in details, not looking through a keyhole, then your signal, the one you emit, is very powerful. You become, you're protected by some such perimeter that doesn't allow the harshest, the heaviest event to penetrate.
Of course, if there's a need in your life to test yourself to the extreme, and you have certain tasks that aren't necessarily tied to any social context, you should become famous, you should save someone, save yourself simply.
This, perhaps, is the most important factor because saving yourself is very difficult.
It means understanding, seeing another person, realizing the circumstances they're in, maybe some blindness of your own, maybe a lack of some scale of personality. But this is quite complex.
But we learn, we're given some close friends, our peers, here, please, our circle of people, what we do there, how we conduct ourselves.
Holiness doesn't mean you have to bang your head against the wall, strip yourself naked, and give your clothes away. Yes, that's a good gesture. But sometimes we understand that a person is standing before us, they have certain tasks, whether they're aware of it or not.
Sometimes helping them is about reaching out to them, not about giving them a fish or a fishing rod. So, of course, the fishing rod is the most important thing now.
I don't know if I was able to convey this, it's always such a chamber-like, very subjective option.
But as soon as you become like that, you give off a different energy, you become powerful, and you're attractive to others, and it creates a certain atmosphere.
But there's a next, let's say, dangerous step - it's inflating yourself and becoming a guru. This, of course, is even worse. So, maybe life is so beautiful in all its manifestations, and you don't have to strive for this social significance.
Maybe do what you're good at, what you enjoy, find pleasure in it, and don't use it as a tool for your advancement, as we used to, as if we had to promote ourselves, it was like marketing.
Now we react to marketing with irritation. So everyone feels it. And everyone understands it from the screen and from the voice. Some people can't watch some speakers because their voice is unpleasant. But this is also energy. - Yes.
Premonition of War: Russia and the West
Interviewer [21:02 - 21:08]
You've said exactly what we need to do to live with these changes happening now.
Svetlana [9:21 - 4:57]
Well, let's take, say, the context of Russia. Not just Russia, probably. I was preparing for your show.
Sometimes you see quite heavy events, and sometimes you even don't want to understand them, that's just a human factor, but then you see something, I don't know how right I am, how daring it will be, I'm generally an optimistic person trying to look at everything positively, but nevertheless, we have to understand.
I just see the situation, we're dealing with Ukraine, something's happening with us, but it all looks much more serious, and there's a feeling that Europe and the whole West aren't just talking about war, they're really preparing for it.
And this feeling of war, perhaps it's already in August and will be, but not yet so that it permeates you directly. Just August, it's so focused on that, as you know, the spotlight is such a historical one, op, and it turns to Russia.
There was a lot of everything there, all of it, there was a warrior of some sort, but now Russia, you're being asked. You wanted to be a teacher, you wanted to unite everyone, you wanted to reach a higher level. We all say, well what, we expected Russia.
Now let's take the final test. Final, not final, but at least the most serious one.
For example, I already see in December 2026 the preconditions for a military-type event for us, for Russia, more serious. And by January, especially the third decade of January, everything looks already very serious.
And here I cannot, so to speak, see everything at once with my eyes; I have to walk through the dark forest and see where the paths are.
However, the overall context leads me to believe that Germany is openly preparing for this, and it will likely play the role of this aggressor. Not just Germany, but Germany seems to be the main focus.
Well, the story starts out quite heavy for us, and it will continue until almost spring of 2029. By spring of the 27th, we will feel the full weight of the situation, not just us, but Europe as well, including the United Kingdom, though a bit differently.
For the United Kingdom, the processes seem to unfold both naturally and in a somewhat unique way, while for this clash of interests, this historical tool of annihilation, that, of course, is a serious moment.
There is, of course, a certain chronology of how this will unfold, the difficult times, and perhaps not so difficult times, but it seems that by 2028, especially around spring, this will become apparent.
In my publications, at least in the application, I will definitely write the full texts and chronology with dates.
But this is a very heavy time, it's when people are already so exhausted, when not only we suffer, and Europe is suffering too, very seriously. I catch myself thinking that I'm saying this so bravely, although how can you answer for this, except perhaps by relying on the fact that things really do happen as planets align.
Interviewer [24:59 - 25:01]
So it's not just idle speculation, we're talking to you.
Svetlana [25:01 - 25:05]
Yes, unfortunately, I don't want to believe it, I don't want to know sometimes, just really.
Interviewer [25:05 - 25:07]
But it's opening up to you.
Svetlana [25:07 - 26:03]
I simply understand, here I am looking, well let me talk to myself, let's be honest with ourselves. And this search for some kind of peace, eventually by 2028, but everything is still very explosive, very tough, and worn out, but the world is not coming any sooner.
But, perhaps, until this old world is destroyed, it's hard to talk about anything, and generally, it's more like a transitional moment, a kind of final scene as we cross this script, it's already the 29th year, maybe by summer.
But, you know, I noticed an interesting thing, just if we go to a metaphysical level, the War of 1812, it's so strange historically, not really understood, despite all these propaganda formats.
Interviewer [26:04 - 26:05]
Completely unclear.
Parallel to the War of 1812
Svetlana [26:06 - 30:22]
And, in general, even some strange monuments to the battle of peoples, so-called. So, some planets that participated in it had such a peculiar relationship with each other, they continued to interact, but I noticed a familiar pattern between them.
And, by the way, in July, it starts to manifest around the 20th, or maybe even the 25th. But what's most interesting is that those who witnessed and were part of these events in 1812, even in 1815, 1815...
There are strange observations that children who were very young at the time later, in their old age, would speak of something happening to the Earth, to energy, to the sky. That once the sky was one, then it changed radically, there were strange vibrations in the air, and they always sounded, and generally, everything felt different, and then it all disappeared.
So, the world seemed painted or somehow different. It simply changed some physical properties.
And very strange events occurred. Children, apparently, noticed this, tried to talk to their parents, but the parents had a complete memory lapse, as if a general amnesia had set in.
And I see a similar story unfolding, with a new state of human consciousness, which is where the difference lies.
And this transition, if there was such a state of unconsciousness back then, things just carried on as they were, but here we have a completely different state where a person's memory suddenly changes, they seem to remember everything or remember things differently.
So we will see people reacting very strangely to many things, and over time, strange things will happen, some people will remember things that didn't happen or happened 250 years ago.
For many, this will seem like some kind of chaos, as if something is wrong with people's psyches, but in reality, it's the same awakening.
However, it's not that simple; you convince yourself and then you awaken. This is a moment when some force, some energy, enters you. It comes to you, and you think, 'I should talk to someone about this or maybe I'm just strange.'
That is why these strange processes will, of course, not be one-day events. And this military situation that will lead to some total collapse, of course, economically it is difficult. Of course, it is very difficult for Germany.
For the European Union, which already in 2027, already by April, looks like it is starting to crack. That is, we see Russia's inclusion in the situation, simply, I would say, a civilizational shift.
But how to react to this? How to react?
Maybe there is a different way to look at it, since we have such processes, and we have claims, and we talk about some awakening and heights that go beyond our lives, then, perhaps, there is even some joy in the experience we are going through.
And moreover, why did we come here?
We should come and suddenly in these extreme events, pass this test of resilience, as a new dialogue with ourselves and as a new form of feeling ourselves in the world, not as some small grain of sand that is being pushed around, like a matrix.
No, if you want to reconnect with non-matrix forces, well, that means you need to understand and accept the scenario, that it is, that you are here for something like this. There is no disarray, no chaos in the cosmos, everything is very carefully planned.
You can talk about civilizations, you can talk about anything, but civilizations and the Solar System-they too undergo such transformative processes, and we, in the material world, experience them with our bodies.
Interviewer [30:22 - 30:24]
And it reflects on us.
Svetlana [30:24 - 30:25]
Yes, definitely.
Working with the State and Thought
Interviewer [30:25 - 30:32]
So, at this moment, the person listens to themselves, what is happening to them in this moment?
Svetlana [30:33 - 32:48]
Well, I guess we have to experiment with our thoughts at least, because that's the hardest part.
We can do crunches, we can meditate, but when it comes to choosing what thought we focus on, even in relation to this new information I've received, what thought do we choose? The glass is half full or half empty, and I guess we should choose half full.
Because when we choose that, it will fill up. It's our own creation, what we see as filling up.
If we perceive it as empty, we always see people constantly complaining and being dissatisfied. We've witnessed this many times; happiness doesn't come to those who do that.
Now, I think the question is about sincerity and some kind of genuine human warmth, a natural, undisguised energy that comes through, and you connect with it.
So if, say, something is supposed to happen in your life, this understanding will make you happy, even if something does happen.
It sounds very strange, but sometimes I remember Tarkovsky's words, who was already ill, already in the final stage, and he said that this stage of life was the happiest for him.
There is a need for self-identification within, and this will lead to you receiving what you have always wanted, what you wanted and never tried. Perhaps you didn't want to paint, never tried, and thought it was impossible, but it is possible.
And I, because I have attended many master classes, have seen these inspired people from young to old, it's just, well, I really saw children to adults under 90 who were incredibly happy, but you're in a completely different state.
This state determines everything. And your body conforms to this state. You're not leading your body, your body is leading you.
Interviewer [32:49 - 33:14]
You said very well about how we can rejoice in becoming observers and participants in such a frenzied transformation. Not every generation gets this.
Of course, at first, one might feel some fear that such events are what we're expected to face, but primarily, we experience this, and we're simply lucky to go through it.
Svetlana [33:14 - 34:53]
Moreover, when we can't even appreciate what we have. If we're given everything we want, we'll stop working on ourselves altogether. But when we have some resistance, in our material world, that of course drives us to move forward and so on.
We might have completely different life formats for free, we don't necessarily have to live in unhappiness, sorrow, and so forth. And planets are aligning in a way that they want a different world.
A different world requires a certain state, because your wave characteristics must necessarily correspond to it, and they come from the state, the ability to work with this state.
And, to be honest, this union they keep telling us we need to join, we say, how can we join, we can't even get along in life because everyone has their own ambitions, not to mention coming together in a way that creates this unseen unity of consciousness.
So, the signal we're receiving now is diverse, but we suddenly start looking at everything and thinking.
It's interesting, the people who set up this whole scenario, this little wardrobe for us, do they have any human qualities at all? Just the most basic ones? We realize they don't.
We realize the system specifically selected leaders who fit this narrative. Someone with genuine, good principles couldn't have made it in there.
Interviewer [34:53 - 34:54]
Communist ones, yes.
Svetlana [34:54 - 38:40]
Well, in some way, yes, at least clean. There is a kind of manual there that this person can share with others. That means it's not random, and our naivety that we're somehow separate, we should simply understand that if we are people, we should manifest as people to each other.
We are many, we can do this, and we can support each other, we can turn away from this scenario, just turn away.
I sometimes think about those who physically participate in all these scenes, if they all suddenly, what would they say? They could say, 'No, we won't do that.'
But the desire for money, some quite grounded, rational, and seemingly honest motives drive us in the other direction.
But when we overcome these motives, and we understand that matter is not primary, that matter follows our consciousness, our mind, but the soul learns from all this, then completely different things happen in our lives altogether.
And I don't know, maybe the transition will be strange. If we look at everything that's left of those ancient ruins, strange, unbuildable, impossible in its construction for us.
It seems to me that this is the work of "The Matrix," which shows you a cultural variant and the exact opposite. But without this, it would be impossible to live. But what has been done cannot be reproduced in any physical format. It's impossible.
And when we realize that this world is such a conditional picture, and sometimes we get into a completely different dimension, we are surprised and return.
So all these stories about some strangeness, for us, well, think about it, happy little conversations between ourselves. But in reality, this grip of the scientific community on matter, it's just a dying agony.
How can you, I don't know, conduct any research if you're exclusively in this code format, in which you're in the interface, sometimes dig into your computer, what you have, you won't find anything else, and who sits behind the computer, someone else will get in.
Therefore, we find ourselves at the very edge of communication with those who sit at computers and interact with our interface, and we stop believing in their tactile, visual, and auditory capabilities, among others, because they transcend our earthly perception.
We see the resistance to this, the obvious unwillingness to even discuss it, an attempt to divert us to entirely different economic realms. After all, we have been worshipping economy for a long time now.
But economy rules over us, just as Gregor does, except if it were that simple. So, as soon as the principle changes, whether ideologically, internally, ethically, or consciously, we will see a completely different architecture and a different way of life, through their gray stars.
Destruction of Old Systems
Interviewer [38:40 - 38:47]
So, will these systems we see now, financial, political, and socio-political, be destroyed?
Svetlana [38:47 - 38:49]
Yes, as a system.
Interviewer [38:49 - 38:50]
As a system, yes.
Svetlana [38:50 - 44:12]
As a system.
In general, anything that was a rigid system, unable to be flexible, adapting to time, needs, understanding, it cannot, it's just like matter is now breaking down, we can see that, yes, physics is changing, and the very concept of a system, it's starting to transition into this pool format, yes, and the attempt to contain it, lock it up, tie it down, yes, all of this, so it...
But it will still break down.
And this... The planets that are working there now, they work in such an interesting way? Before, mass could defeat someone, but now one person can defeat everything.
That is, this subjective but common conscious reality, it sounds paradoxical, but it is indeed an opportunity to restructure the world. For some, it's about restructuring their world, but as this number of, so to speak, other people accumulates, it changes the world.
And I don't rule out that there's some strange position out there, a planetary one, that seemingly divides everyone into one world and another. That could also be the case. We may be in the epicenter of dramatic events, but not necessarily affected by them.
By the way, I even literally thought about this yesterday. I sometimes host a live stream dedicated to a specific topic. And, of course, there are dates for people who are most susceptible to these events, in some sphere of their life, and so on.
Maybe I'll even do one, highlighting dates that will experience the most significant fluctuations, and so forth. But, by the way, no one will remain the same.
And America too, after 2028, or rather, starting from around 2028, it's like the sunset, not that it's the end, but there are big problems, economic and environmental, and after that, even the weight categories change to such a degree that, well, maybe Russia...
I'm not saying that someone should compete right now, but these processes are happening that will, of course, be accompanied by very harsh, especially for America, natural processes.
And, by the way, in June-July, it already starts to become quite shaky. It's shaky both from a natural and political perspective. It looks quite hard, revolutionary, and it's clear that there will be big fluctuations in the euro-dollar.
But here we are, walking from different layers, emerging into different, let's say, information narratives. But to us, it all seems fragmented, but when you look at the planet, everything is well-structured.
And I, perhaps, would like to say this: an interesting thing. When we try to interpret what's happening in astrology, there is such a concept as the angular distance of planets.
This angle determines the life of a person, whether it will be difficult or easy, how they will act, what circumstances they will be in, what events will befall them. But when we understand that our Earth is practically a test polygon, the field is vast, and the angle - the corner.
That is, we are always in need of dealing with these angular distances, they depend on the planet's energy, hard, soft, kind, or so relaxed, you too might get lost, not really.
Therefore, here lies a deep philosophy: we determine our life, our words, the angles, either we smooth them out or we, so to speak, intensify them.
But in reality, when we talked about the original code that is written, but we don't touch it. Any numerical code, from the perspective of highest physics, can be represented by a geometric figure. We are now beginning to understand what all these mandalas and such are all about.
This, right here, is the code.
And here when we understand that every person has this encoding, it's in the angular distances of the planets in their mandala, then we see how it's just the very same essence, practically the physics, geometry of our life.
But we don't realize it, we don't understand it, and we resist, we get frustrated. But as soon as we come to this understanding, we realize that we have the keys to these codes. Because every code has its own, but it's part of the general code of Russia, the general code of the world, and so on.
All of this is calculated, all of this is realized even in a practical sense. But talking about it now is premature, and not just premature, it's something that people are struggling with and trying to do.
Resources: Website and App
Interviewer [44:12 - 44:32]
Of course. Svetlana, you've mentioned several times that you've calculated a specific time, dates for some significant events.
Tell us, outside of our interview, do you have any informational resources, apps, or a website that one can access to learn more about what we're discussing today?
Svetlana [44:33 - 45:47]
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share a bit about this. We do, indeed, have a team of people from a technical and organizational perspective, so many questions we have are not related to astrology.
But this, in my opinion, is quite unique today - the site and the app. The app is even more convenient, I think, depending on who uses it.
This app is not just about astrology, but even anthropological issues. You can read about hands, faces, physiognomy, and various practical things... It's an integrated science.
I have my own method and a section called "General Human Forecast" there. I always highlight the dates of people I know well, and what events will happen to them.
Of course, I can't predict for everyone, but each time I see that this will be the case with certain people, it might be a passing event, or it could be something that lasts a long time and ends with something specific.
That is, the opportunity to go beyond the banal and profaned questions of the zodiac signs.
This is a real forecast for people with specific dates.
Interviewer [45:47 - 45:48]
Specific, yes.
Svetlana [45:48 - 46:26]
Yes, and I hope that this works very assistantly, and maybe allows for a somewhat ironic look at the sequence, because I even have constant confirmations there.
That is, we can observe history as it is, without propagandistic slogans, and we can see how it unfolded, how people reacted to it, and the strong world that came from it, and where it went next.
This is a very interesting process, because it allows us to see the difference between nature and something invented by humans in a certain format.
Interviewer [46:26 - 46:27]
Massive work.
Svetlana [46:28 - 47:10]
Well, she was missing this, I guess, all of a sudden for me.
Yes, there is free content and paid content, but it's a team of people always on support, on the phone, by email-we get a lot of emails, both for support and directed to us, and not a single one goes unanswered. We try to respond to everything because in our work, we're dealing with people. We're not selling them a product; we're just, well, that's my philosophy, and it's always been with me-people are the priority.
Interviewer [47:10 - 47:13]
Well, of course, like attracts like, always.
Svetlana [47:13 - 48:13]
To be fair, I didn't initiate this application, but people came along who not only proposed it, they created it, and somehow, it just happened.
So, I think we can talk a lot, and we do talk about a lot of this on air now, but when you actually do the work, whether it's liked or not, disliked, is very subjective. But at least the information is all structured and gathered.
It's structured, detailed, and sometimes dissected, whether it's about dollars and euros, or Iran, or whatever, sometimes it's a broad overview.
In any case, I think when we start seeing it all laid out more clearly, we start looking at it differently, because if it's like this, then what's our role?
And that's perhaps where our conversation comes full circle.
When Will the Changes End?
Interviewer [48:13 - 49:05]
Dear listeners and viewers, under our video, you will find all the links to both the app and Svetlana's website. Please, if this interests you, come, read, learn, subscribe, it will be very interesting for you.
Svetlana, yes, somehow we've been going in circles, but there's another question. People are always interested in when it will end. That is, we're talking about different... The pandemic, we all say, when will it end, when will everything return to normal.
We've just discussed the major changes that are happening and have already begun, but there will come a moment when the changes have taken place, the world has changed, the codes have changed. When might this happen approximately?
Svetlana [49:06 - 54:37]
Well, the codes are changing right now. All of this, in our understanding of time, should be happening, and adapting all living beings on Earth, including humans and animals, to these new years.
When we talk about it, it's incredibly difficult to detach from geopolitical tensions, economic issues, and so on. But in my opinion, we don't always succeed in directly seeing 155 years into the future, but there's a sense that after 2029 comes a moment of 2029-2030, a feeling of this new world, a kind of relative stabilization, although there's no such complete relaxation. The planet has emerged from a harsh dialogue between itself."
However, in 2036, I saw almost a complete absence of money. All of this is smooth transformation processes that are happening in any case.
But what I would like to say is that when it was 2018, 2017, 2016... 17, 18, we had a show where we were talking, for about 5-6 years ahead. And I was talking about a war with God. Which God? What kind of war? What are we even talking about?
Then I said there would be an attempt at a totalitarian seizure of power. That is, I spoke about Covid. At that time, according to planetary indicators, it was the harshest situation, honestly.
I thought when I saw this, maybe we won't all survive, I'm just saying.
The planetary combinations we have now, they give us all the time, they don't create the kind of rigidity that you can't cross, they don't make it so rigid that it's impossible to overcome. There's flexibility everywhere.
So if they were in a different angular combination, say under 90 degrees, that would be an absolute must, but they change the quality, they even spare us, stretching our enjoyment of these changes.
Sometimes I look, I realize, people have nothing to compare it to, it seems bad-bad to them, but no, it's very sparing.
And if, say, Russia is going through tough times now, but this is for Russia, perhaps for the whole world, 28th year could be very challenging, from an economic perspective, from the perspective of this everyday setup.
I don't know how it will be with food and so on, but there's a feeling that this is a very heavy time. A heavy time when the old is destroyed, it's probably hard to deal with the new.
This is a time when we will redefine, I would even say, overdid it with questions of technology, artificial intelligence and so forth, we'll be saturated with it in 2028.
After that comes another re-conceptualization of relationships with technologies, and technology in general, and even the feeling that a person might start to wonder, is there really anything non-living in this world?
Because all, every structure in a certain sense carries with it some spiritual component, perhaps not in such a form, it's very limited in terms of choice.
It's the human who has this choice, but there are these codes of submission, as if a cell, for example, had some sort of desire, but it's already submitted to much harsher annual formats.
Therefore, our understanding of these processes will lead us to a different relationship and a different ratio between biology and artificial intelligence.
So, to not scare you, this is not about us now stuffing some chips into our heads. On the contrary, the animating of the objects we work with and encounter, in general, will push us towards completely different ideas.
So, I believe we are currently experiencing and will continue to experience the most complex years. And if it might comfort someone, we just have to go through them and, perhaps, form within ourselves what we were lacking. So, easy or difficult?
It's always easy for those who are busy with something. And if they are busy, people are drawn to them because they are needed by everyone. And this busyness, not relaxation or laziness, is what makes a person unhappy.
I've seen extremely wealthy people who are extremely unhappy, and the other side of the coin. So, of course, we are attached to material things, and there's no shame in admitting it, but there aren't many among us who don't need it. This comfort is something everyone needs.
But this sense of reason, when it's not made into a goal but becomes a accompanying factor, and when you work and then think, oh, and they pay me money for this, that's a great idea.
And when you think, I should do this to get money, the whole idea changes, the material and the events change.
Russia's Role in the World
Interviewer [54:37 - 54:52]
It's clear that all these transformations that will happen to us won't last for centuries, then what will be the 28-29th year? Will Russia still matter in the world?
Svetlana [54:54 - 56:46]
I think more than anything, because there's going to be a collapse, even territorially, we find ourselves in a completely different environment, because the ocean is very restless, the earth is very restless.
The processes that are happening, they... we don't have them separated, I don't know, today there was a very serious earthquake in the Philippines. Yes, I read about it. These are all interconnected processes, politics, nature, because the signals are the same.
Sometimes you just look and think, okay, this is a hint that there will be an earthquake there, and a revolution here. But the signals are the same.
We will probably survive this planetary restructuring, give it a chance, and it will support us if we give it a chance.
But Russia, both territorially and in its nature, I've talked about this many times, it's very close to that factor of super-management by a third force, which acts as a curator.
I'm not talking about that curatorial structure; I'm talking about the value and significance of the task itself. It's about recreating humanity.
Not the humanity we see today, but a blend of human and artificial intelligence. Don't we encounter such individuals? I believe this is not merely a figure of speech; it's a reality.
So, different opportunities and levels have been created, and when that human part requires its own space, education, and path.
Interviewer [56:47 - 56:48]
I understand you very well.
Svetlana [56:48 - 59:07]
There are many such people everywhere. Even a direct commitment to whatever might happen, but I wouldn't violate my code of honor because it's impossible to live, sleep, or see yourself in the mirror with that.
And if you see yourself in the mirror and are not ashamed of your actions, not talking about appearance, this already says that the chosen path is correct. Of course, some obstacles may come to you all the time, something like that.
Because when you look at a person's chart, there are conditions that are karmically created for some, and it will be like this. But accepting these conditions, understanding them, it softens your state, and you understand that you are on the right track.
And if you are on the right track, you radiate the right energy and so on. Everything is arranged in this way.
And if we understand this, it's a pity that not all people... Well, not everyone understands astrology. If you knew how it... Amazing, when you open it and see everything.
Sometimes a person asks you a question, and you already know what questions they will ask, who they are, what they are, and you have no irritation or ill will towards them, you only think about how to convey to them what cannot be expressed in words.
And if everyone could see how it works, it would be difficult for those who currently lead us. This is how the story goes.
Nevertheless, these are the knowledge that creates true humanity. So, perhaps because materialism, this idea, this god called economy, needs to be preserved here, that's why we see what exists. Not just economy.
Economy is also, yes, a projection of entirely different motives, from a completely different world. And the world here is not as homogeneous as we understand. And everyone who lives here is not, as it were, an Imeran in a known sense.
So, yes, we live here, we came here, and each of us can stay with the words "I am". I am, yes.
Individual Work of an Astrologer
Interviewer [59:07 - 59:18]
You said that you look at a person's chart and already see their essence and everything. Does that mean you also do individual astrological work?
Svetlana [59:19 - 61:56]
Of course. Any astrologer has experience, primarily in individual consultations, because it's, well, to put it simply, a post-facto set of understandings that sometimes don't work out quite as the theory does.
You can talk about the theory as much as you want, but when you have experience and you know how this, that, and all the rest works, you know that sometimes the stars, when they connect with planets, they 'stamp' events.
They simply don't allow for the possibility of going beyond that event, because there's already a certain specific code here. There are just the relationships between the planets. Wouldn't you like to do that today? There are different levels of proposals from the planets.
For example, with the Sun, which everyone thinks that predictions are only made based on the Sun. "Draw me a Sun," they say. It's amusing, because the Sun is a secondary chart in general for predictions, a secondary one.
It does allow for maneuvering and creating certain right scenes, like the possibility of positioning yourself geographically to emphasize something in your life. All of these are tools. Some work, you talk, you persuade, and you're on your way.
I am writing a very long text for myself. I analyze it. I haven't fully understood it yet, and I don't have a chronological sequence with a rewind because sometimes I don't see people; they just know that I have a date, time, and place of birth.
I see who this person is, what happened before they came to me, what led them to me. They can tell me anything, but I see something different.
Different, not different; I simply see reality as it is and how it will unfold, and I see their painful moments, which may not be as relevant because they have something coming. Some ask if they should give me their apartment or not.
I say, listen, you will soon have so much, such apartments, that this will not even interest you. How so? Well, that's just how it happens. So, of course, everyone asks questions based on their own assumptions.
But when you tell them something beyond their assumptions, it's not always accepted or understood. Yet, we astrologers are always prepared to wait for people to grasp what was meant and that it will indeed happen.
Interviewer [61:56 - 61:57]
For him to accept, yes.
Svetlana [61:58 - 62:55]
Yes, it's such a thing, but those who, for example, have constant cooperation, it's physically and technically challenging for me now, I can't keep up, it's literally monitoring, building a life, not just a vulgar one, let's go there, maybe you have more money there, but everything looks different, all the reasons, all the connections, etc.
Everyone has maps, not just humans, but animals, machines when you buy them, planes do too.
I've said this and continue to say it, and I work with it. Many people at Korolev reported on what would happen, but no. That's why, if we took this on board, everything would be safer, more efficient, and kinder.
The Path to Astrology
Interviewer [62:55 - 62:58]
Tell me, how did astrology enter your life?
Svetlana [62:58 - 67:31]
I used to practice palm reading, very intensively. Initially, of course, I was involved in literature, I dedicated a lot of effort, time, and many things to it.
Interestingly, it happened somehow a hundred years ago, when there were still kiosks selling newspapers.
I approached a kiosk, thinking, "Let me buy another interesting book on energy, something like that," and I heard a voice that told me, "You know what you need. You need palm reading."
I didn't turn my head, saying, "What palm reading? I don't need palm reading; I need something else." And when I turned around, there was no one there. I even thought, "Maybe I just didn't see someone," but now I realize it was a voice in my head.
On that very day, I met a patient who told me about some incredible miracles of palm reading.
And all of it, I got sick from it, I studied it very intensely, and since I had a lot of people coming for consultations, I had the opportunity to practice. And in the end, everything is fantastic, actually, everything in my life is fantastic.
And palmistry is, of course, a wonderful thing. Hands.
A person can just make a fist, and you see their priorities. That doesn't necessarily mean opening the hand. But when the hand is open, it's a different story. There are silent hands, hands like that... You immediately understand how a person is built.
But at some point, I felt like something was missing. How so? Yes, I can see what will happen in 2-3 weeks or something, but it's not the chronology or the detail I was looking for. Something was missing.
So, I just went to a school of a well-known person to enrich my knowledge. Pavel Glob, who promised to teach palmistry, I don't know, maybe there's more to it, but I encountered astrology there. Not exactly in the face of Pavel Pavlovich, but in the face of another person.
Well, it's up to be seen. And not that it captivated me, it just engaged me for life.
And, of course, as you say, a personal consultation. Back then, such gadgets didn't exist, not even my computer-I did everything by hand, even using a stencil, I would lay it over, and I even calculated the exact date I bought the apartment. And that's exactly what happened.
I got so into it that I started recording in my flip calendar what would happen to me. For example, I see that on this day something will happen. I would check it against my flip calendar. So, you can see it for yourself.
Then, I don't know, it's something that engages you. Astrology, too, should love itself, as it seems to me. And that's it.
It just took up so much time, when, as it seems to me, everyone there led a very active life. I remember them all walking along the riverbank, while my teacher gave me this tiny little gadget. It was still DOS, remember, such a system?
It had no backlight, just on this gray background, this screen was squashed. I would take it with me in the metro, I couldn't take my eyes off it, I was wondering what...
There were only four of these, just like that, it wasn't even a laptop, it was something in between. They were delivered to some oil workers, but they weren't needed for me. And, in general, it just happened to be.
So this is a very inspired path, and it's still... I'm really happy that I've caught it, found my way in life.
And when this combines with astrology, essential oils, crystals, and understanding these things, you start perceiving everything differently.
It's a general understanding that allows, perhaps, even sometimes not to look at things methodically, but just see the hands, the nose, and so on.
It comes instantly, and it creates a certain feeling. But I don't disconnect from ordinary human life, and it makes me happy too.
Words of Gratitude
Interviewer [67:31 - 67:50]
But astrology definitely loved you. Svetlana, thank you so much for the deep and sincere conversation, because there wasn't a single note of falsity, it was all so deep and sincere, and I'm very grateful to you.
Svetlana [67:50 - 67:54]
Thank you for giving me the chance to be heard and understood, and to express all of this.
Interviewer [67:55 - 67:55]
Thank you.
