From hidden metaphysics to concreteness. From today's events to the future (Part 1)

From Hidden Metaphysics to Concrete Reality: From Today's Events to the Future

Interview with Svetlana Dragun for Alexander Isambayev's Channel "Everyone Can"

Interviewer [0:02-0:28]:

Friends, hello everyone, you're on the "Everyone Can" channel, with me, Alexander Isamбаев, and today I have Svetlana Dragun as my guest. Svetlana, good day. I wanted to add that she's an astrologer, futurist, and philosopher. But I think you're a well-known figure here, so I won't introduce you. As for today's topic, we have a lot of questions, to be honest, I don't even know how to categorize our discussion. It covers such a wide range of topics, so let's just go with the flow.

Svetlana [0:28-0:29]:

Let's start.

Interviewer [0:29-1:04]:

Let's move forward. It seems everything is tragic, dramatic, everything is falling apart, and you said that all these configurations and old interaction models should crumble and break. From my perspective, the world is always evolving, its task is to evolve, as if on a divine plan. Our task is to become more conscious. To transition to the new, we need to destroy the old. These crises never pass gently. And we humans, stubbornly, hold on to the familiar, to what is known to us. From this perspective, can't we look at it this way?

Svetlana [1:04-5:24]:

Of course, we can, but there's one very important point. What's happening now (yes, the world is evolving, there are repetitions, patterns that repeat), but the factor that's happening now, in terms of stars and so on, is unprecedented. It's renewing. There are rhythmic transitions, and there are phase transitions, meaning a complete overhaul in a swift, impatient manner.

The thing is, at this juncture, as you said, everything has been somehow broken. Programming the future is important. And now, when you spoke of responsibility, we are simply responsible. Yes, we can't gather somewhere and now in a flash mob repeat the same phrases. But the individual quality of each person, what's more, these are completely different things (it doesn't mean that everyone should be totally similar in their euphoria), different destinies, different purposes, different people, different paths.

Having the ability to respect each person's path, with love, with understanding, because it's their experience, they came here, and they grow thanks to this experience, while we're here teaching them. And the skill to give someone space to maneuver, to accept it, and to program this future as it forms, it's practically right in front of our eyes now, in the summer, it will be forming. And if we allow such irresponsibility ("we're being led, we'll be taken"), it won't serve us well. We do what we do.

And here is the confidence in oneself, not some pillar, but a powerful pole that is a transmitter of life, of one's personal life. If, in terms of quality, not paths, it aligns with the proposals of the external environment (physics changes), then, of course, it will be supported. This support of the delicate world is very subtle, but if a person truly resonates with this new world, they will still move towards it. As for what does not resonate... There are very good people, but suffering, not accepting all of this. It is very difficult for adults, but it is a factor of contradiction with the future.

But this optimism can be found everywhere: with loved ones, at work, and in nature. We just don't see it. We would turn off the TV for a moment, look out the window, and everything would be different. Just stop for a moment, hear the birds singing, and that's it. It's so important. We see that we can write, we have something we can touch. We can't touch the future and the substance of events, and that's why we can't accept that we generate it. But if we understand this and start to not allow ourselves to have pessimistic attitudes, to see the best in each situation, then this already gives us both protection and a path to the future.

And, to be honest, I don't know... I've been into palm reading and still am, even before astrology. We meet people, and we're not ready for them, they don't appeal to us. But when we understand (for example, we see hands, we notice some roughness on the fingertips), the person is very material, they need to touch everything with their hands, they won't believe you and your high-minded ideas, it all sounds quite unbelievable. But they're like that, you can't change them. There are others, more delicate people, who on the other hand can't do things with their hands; they need other forms of self-expression.

And when we simply see a person and understand (even physiognomy tells us), we stop resisting this, we just understand, and even accept it with some generosity. This is a very important factor: just start getting to know who we are, and don't label people. That will be good enough.

Interviewer [5:24-5:32]:

Get to know who we are. It's a task for each of us to study ourselves, our talents, our strength, our...

Svetlana [5:32-5:35]:

How do I explore my strength, my talents? What do you think?

Interviewer [5:35-5:39]:

What is my inclination, what is my strength, what do I do best?

Svetlana [5:39-5:42]:

Maybe it's not even about studying, maybe it's just about listening and not resisting, right?

Interviewer [5:42-5:50]:

At least listen, because many of us were raised with a kind of ban on introspection, there's always something...

Svetlana [5:50-5:51]:

Yes, keep a lid on it.

Interviewer [5:51-6:15]:

Yes, something from the outside is happening, and many don't even analyze who they are, how they are, what they are about, what their task here is, to what they are generally predisposed. And they don't even know their own strength, essentially. They are just a particle in this great meat grinder, something... And, accordingly, their influence on the outer world is nil.

Svetlana [6:15-6:21]:

I'm thinking, when a person has an interest in something, they pursue that interest.

Interviewer [6:21-6:25]:

And the interest, when it's love for your work, when...

Svetlana [6:25-6:49]:

Yes, absolutely. If you find something you're passionate about, and it resonates with you, that's hitting the mark. Keep learning, I don't know, explore... If someone doesn't have the passion or can't afford it, there are other factors at play. Yes, you're right, I guess: finding your calling, something that truly interests you, no matter how unusual, is probably the most important key.

Interviewer [6:50-7:22]:

Inner strength will emerge from this, and a person's influence will grow, and then they're not just a small cog in the machine; their impact will be like ripples in water, becoming more far-reaching. Their own life will become interesting, not just what's happening on screen, where they're pulled into all these games, as you mentioned earlier, but their own life will captivate them. They'll start making an impact, and their responsibility will grow, they'll draw others in, and they'll become captivating.

Sveta [7:22-10:57]:

Well, it's like an idyllic picture, yes, like this is how it can be. It probably happens differently. I see people who... Well, literally today I was in a virtual chat with someone. He, as I understand, is a financier, an adult man who, no doubt, had stereotypes. But I see that he's looking for images. He wrote something very intriguing, interesting. That is, it can come from any point and go to any point. Sometimes you can work on yourself, sometimes with someone else. Just need to do it.

There are people who have this common story: the state owes us, it should take care of us. But we are not children to just understand... Well, maybe someday the world will be like that, but we also have to give something back. From any state, in our thoughts. And if a person cannot physically, but even just expresses gratitude for any actions, even if they are not conscious... Unconscious grievances can arise. As soon as we allow ourselves to distance from this involvement in any personal conflict, this power accumulates, and we can sublimate it into anything.

These are important things. And it's written on our hands, for example, that we are contributors, and we might have to carve statues, and sometimes this is visible on our hands. Someone else might have to deal with spirits. So when we understand the diversity allowed here by nature, when we don't limit it with our ideas, labels, and stamps, and let it be, then it is given to be.

And, by the way, what's happening now at the end of April is just a transition to a different space of relations: time, space, the speed of events, instant enlightenment, instant mental absorption of a huge volume of information. That is, a person will simply change so that they no longer need to do something long and boring. Of course, everyone does it in their own way, but this planet is just amazing, allowing such breakthroughs in science, information issues, communication. I can't imagine that when it reaches its best place for itself, it will suddenly allow such harsh treatment of information. It's very strange.

But we see at the event level: a person comes, and they're seemingly an unexpected factor of change, it's all set up, it's all formulated by the planets so we just think... This script, honestly, it's so well-written, and you think: how interesting, watching people's behavior. And you realize that people don't understand some maneuvers, but these maneuvers lead to the creation of a new historical narrative, understand? And those who are completely unaware of it are just tools, I call them software modules, following this path. But we're free, and we might be freer than those who are currently trying to regulate processes at a global level in all senses of the word.

Interviewer [10:57-11:17]:

You mentioned there's this global management, that humans and non-humans are involved in all of this. What did you mean by "non-humans"? What's that about? Are they sent people, some objects from the outside world that don't possess empathy, that...

Svetlana [11:18-15:47]:

There are, for example, scenarios, hypothetically. Let's try this: the director (some call them architects) needs to create some kind of scenario, historical or simply an event, that's written down but lacks participants, understand? Normal people think: he's just driving, and suddenly there's a crowd of cars. I think: well, it just wasn't there, now it's appeared. Someone needs to create this atmosphere, this setting, in which we find ourselves. Someone... People call it differently. I'm into athletics, and we have one very good competitor, I laughed so much when he said: "Well, you know, it's not a person, it's a projection." We laughed at the word "projection".

Indeed, the given scenario and the absence of the most important thing... We understand that we feel sympathy for someone, it hurts us. We think about them, how comfortable will it be for them. At all levels. It's normal for a human to think like this. But if he doesn't think this way, if he doesn't experience these feelings, can we call him a human? In principle...

There are, of course, timid people who have come under the gun, such things do exist. But in this environment, they have now created such a brainwash for us that, you know, like through a sieve, op, we see: here a clump forms, here it is. Someone has passed, not passed, as if there was a lack of strength, mind, force, some real spiritual non-resistance. But when you witness the murder of some very important things right before your eyes, and you are somehow an accomplice to this, you cannot align with it, you must be excluded from this system. And if you are part of it, no matter how you analyze yourself, you are a part of this gear, this mechanism.

In principle, no matter how you twist it, you can translate into different languages, where the word "phantom" appears, not "phantom", a part of the soul, not a part of the soul. But spirituality and light, if you switch to the language of high matters and those above us in the fine world... Information seeps through: they say, we don't see you. The one who radiates, we see them, just help if needed. And the gray mass that doesn't radiate, we can't track down who needs help. That is, if there is no light (it's really light, it can be different), but if not, there have been moments when: "Help this person." "Yes, I can't find him easily, if he would just radiate a little."

Therefore, if there is a lack of light, it is a lack of productivity, a lack of that spark that creates not a body but a spirit, the engagement of a spirit that has the task of inner growth, perhaps through very complex things in this life. We live here narrowly, understanding only our own lives: how we were born, then something else. But if we look at it from the perspective of many lives, and the growth or accumulation of this light, or a transitional period as a result of several lives, our worldview will change. That is why we are not supposed to take these sciences seriously.

But we understand that all the artifacts we find (or that are hidden from us) in the same pyramids, they are attempts at the migration of souls, recognizing them in this world when a person comes back. All of this exists, it's just that this information is intentionally withheld from us. But when we believe in ourselves, we meet someone who believes in themselves: they inspire sympathy, then some vague associations, something like that is in it. They say: "No, this is completely insane." But no, we have silenced that voice within ourselves.

If we were to open up this whole thing (and, in fact, that's what's happening now, as the world is being restructured), the death of the dying, irrelevant, non-aligning with physically subtle processes, it naturally causes agony. It's a very scary thing, if anyone has ever seen what agony is. So, we're witnessing this now in a global context.

Interviewer [15:47-16:12]:

David Hawkins has a scale: there's low frequency consciousness from 200 down to 1, and a scale from 1 to 1000, and everything above 200, where a person has transformed and let go of it. It doesn't mean they can't experience lower feelings (guilt, fear, aggression), but they're moving globally upwards: that's love, acceptance...

Svetlana [16:12-16:15]:

At least, it's a critical attitude towards this state. You can at least fix it within yourself.

Interviewer [16:15-16:29]:

Yes-yes-yes. If we synchronize with the world: if the world evolves, then we, as individuals, each must evolve, and it's the task of each to evolve. Consciousness evolves, as do our relationships with the world and with God.

Svetlana [4:29-7:02]:

That's true, but there are such things... For example, when looking at people's charts (I mean astrological charts), the processes are so different. A person might be completely limited in this life: limited in consciousness, in understanding, thinks very slowly. It's as if there are settings he must go through. This is his path, and it might seem to us like something from the future we all, in our fancy attire, are waiting for. But even so... Forget about this, that we are like this, not like others.

And that's why you even want to avoid the conversation: "These are people with options, these are people without options." It's all our two-dimensional, this duality is three-dimensional, where we look at it. It's the overall picture of the world with all the quest, with all the inputs. You go through this quest, like it or not, I'll reflect it back to you. You move forward, it's present here. Everything has a purpose, everything does. And those people who came here, maybe not with the best intentions, they're also a person with a purpose. And it's an ambiguous story: maybe he came and is so important to us to cultivate certain feelings in us, the ability to detach from the imposed sensations he provokes.

Because there's this thing, I've probably talked about it not once (I don't know if you've heard any of my interviews, I've just been writing and working for so many years), that there's such a concept in astrology called "Black Moon." And everyone's afraid of it, they say: "It's the Black Moon, so scary, it's thrown you off." But what is it?

The moon, the ordinary moon, acts as... It lets the light of other planets pass through, so they adapt to our understanding. We don't fly from Mars to bash someone's head, we don't become aggressive, or fall into some euphoria from Neptune. Neptune is when a person also enters some worlds, sometimes with alcohol, sometimes with other substances. So, when the moon removes its adapter... It moves, its orbit is stretched in one direction. And when it moves far away and removes its adaptive function, that's the point. It's not a planet, it's a point, the Black Moon. The planet says: "Okay, I'm going to test you now."

At that moment, either an event or an emotion flies by that is extraordinary in perception: you can't filter it properly, you can't perceive it. And this is the biggest test of adequacy, both in perception and behavior. It can make you aggressive, behave stupidly, comply with something you shouldn't, as they now say, and get involved in something you don't need to. So, these are all tools of our upbringing. And we came here, and they gave us such a tool.

So what am I thinking? Of course, none of us can remain calm in the face of what's happening. It's unfair, it doesn't align with our vision of how the world should be. And suddenly we see that we are many, and in this unity, we accept even those who were not accepted before. So, there's something very significant, fateful, global about us confronting this. What should we feel, fear or gratitude, that such a test has come to us? It means they believe we can handle it.

Interviewer [8:02-8:14]:

We'll have a traditional segment, "Metaphorical Map Analysis." I'll ask you to choose a deck, shuffle or not, draw one card. I'll ask you questions, and we'll unpack some idea, insight, that comes to you.

Svetlana [8:14-8:16]:

So, what should I do now?

Interviewer [8:16-8:19]:

Choose one of the decks that appeals to you.

Svetlana [8:19-8:21]:

Well, of course, this one appeals to me.

Interviewer [8:21-8:23]:

Everyone. It's my favorite.

Svetlana [8:23-8:25]:

Yes, of course, everyone can see. I'll talk to them now.

Interviewer [8:28-8:40]:

Great. We'll put it on screen, and now look at this map, and I'll ask you questions. Please describe what you see on this map, what's happening, what action?

Svetlana [8:40-9:20]:

I think this is an aggressive female victory. Remember, there's a painting called 'Judith', where the head is severed, the foot... It's something from this series. But I believe there's some symbolism here related to the dominant role of women. As a matter of fact, I had a prediction, I don't know if you heard it, but it was just as I thought, on RTVI, but it doesn't matter, it was described in my application: that around this time, in May, a woman will come to the forefront, and the political landscape will be significantly shaken by her appearance. And that's exactly what's happening now. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Interviewer [21:20-21:23]:

Yes, I understand, yes, yes, I wanted to ask this question further.

Svetlana [21:23-21:38]:

And I think it directly reflects that we're all connected, or as they say, in the flow, the channel, however you want to call it. There's a feeling that this card suggests: the female-led plot will turn the situation around.

Interviewer [21:38-21:39]:

Will it happen after all?

Svetlana [21:39-21:47]:

Well, first of all, it's not just this plot. There are also sky indicators that suggest an unexpected turn of events, and if you're interested, I can explain what it means.

Interviewer [21:47-21:48]:

I'd be interested to know.

Svetlana [21:49-22:47]:

April 26, 2026, generally, a signal appears in the sky, let's say (I won't name the planet to avoid sounding pretentious, let's say). This is an extremely rare situation that cannot allow information to be bottled up. It's a revolutionary turn, a shift that will require not only freedom of speech but also a complete restructuring of information systems, platforms, even media, if you will. And this had implications for our country in the context of a woman, unexpectedly emerging.

Of course, I could have tailored any character, I didn't try to do that. But the fact that the women's theme sounds like a completely unexpected breakthrough in the information environment, which is just creating the ground for an incredibly sharp reformation, that's right. So, it seems, we've uncovered it.

Interviewer [22:47-22:57]:

Is it really possible that we could have a woman president in our country? Or are women taking over some dominant positions?

Svetlana [22:57-25:44]:

Well, what's happening now on the map, I mean from the perspective of astrology... We all have different reference points, different methods, and so on. But what I, at least, see, is a very important precedent that could change some key things in the country.

But the thing is, it seems: one event, then another, then a third. But when I look a bit further, I realize that we are facing a very complex period, at least until spring 2029. And whatever happens (women, men, doesn't matter), what's coming now is the entry into a new reality, a Russian reality, marked by some female involvement and possibly a very significant, fate-determining factor that a woman will bring. That's it.

I cannot assert how directly a woman will steer processes in a formal sense, because all processes happening in our country will be lengthy. If we talk about the most crucial point in time, it's around August 12th, 17th... Even slightly earlier (I just have it written down, I might not remember all the dates), but we are approaching a point of no return. The common phrase, even not wanting to say it, but to be safer in words: you just need to understand that a process of complete reconstruction of the power system, personnel, is beginning, and this will take a long time, different positions.

Frankly speaking, expecting anything to improve currently in our situation is unlikely. When I looked at all this from afar, when it was relatively calm, I thought: well, we have calm people, things are generally acceptable, something must happen... And actually, the turn towards new forms of interaction at a new level is the most crucial topic.

However, what will happen to Russia, with its reevaluation of all clan-related aspects, key figures, and so forth, at a very serious level, all of this will be happening. And, let's say, if August marks this as the start, it doesn't mean everything will happen there. It means it will simply be the beginning of these changes, where, perhaps, October might emphasize the drama of the whole situation.

Interviewer [25:44-26:10]:

So, it will be the launch of the process itself, but we will see the results later, where it will lead, and where we will go as a result. The feeling that this transformation is like a dark period... You did say, indeed, that it will never be the same as before, yet people always hope that things will calm down now and be like before, and that somewhere it should lead us. But where will it ultimately lead us, specifically Russia?

Svetlana [26:11-29:45]:

When I was preparing, I described so many events that you can't even imagine how all this will unfold, because it's an uneven process, of course. But behind all this seemingly not very positive forecast lies the main thought, which we must adhere to. Why is all this drama unfolding before our eyes?

For example, we will have quite disturbing things of a natural kind. This is not all that concerns water and everything else. I think it will still be happening in June. What does it call us to? To something we have long forgotten. We have indeed forgotten to be warmer to each other. To divide into those who really feel, who have the option called 'sympathy', who have kindness and so on, and those who seem to lack these qualities.

We're always thinking: this president of this country is probably wrong, or that one, but we're witnessing a choir of wrongness. And this is very strange, because all the bearings are lost, all the rules... I'm not even talking about conscience and honor, they're completely trampled. But I have a suspicion that we're fighting (people with the option of humanity, of God-given humanity) and against some, I don't know, people, not people, but entities that don't possess these options. We can't simply apply to them: we can't wait for them to understand or accept. This is something else. I just don't want to pick any harsh phrases, but it's becoming that obvious. Yet, we're still waiting for something to happen over there.

And this whole scene that's presented to us, it's an experience for those who suddenly start understanding the value of us all being together, that we have strength, we have will, and most importantly, we have each other. If we support the image of the future they're imposing on us, and we suffer (even considering my prediction, which might not sound optimistic), then we're simply accomplices in this scheme.

To even resist... Perhaps the times when everyone comes out with pitchforks have passed. We can resist in entirely different ways. When we criticize something, we're still participating in the process of such destruction, the breakdown of all of this. But if we think about how to organize ourselves, how to help each other, what society should look like, it's to awaken in us an interest in our own self, will, and faith. Truly, things that are inherent to a human being. And at the metaphysical level, the picture begins to crumble, all schemes start to fall apart, we don't have interest in it. Do you understand what I'm saying?

And if we don't have interest, then there should also be such inner faith, not some surrogate ("let's go pray, and everything will be fine"), but faith in one's own strength, in honesty, in the fact that you won't back down, that you think about something else, you know something else. And this struggle at the level literally metaphysical and theological, religious in practice, this is the key story, and I'll tell you a bit about it now.

Interviewer [29:46-30:30]:

I understand correctly that each of us has the task not to get involved in this collective story, not to pour our energy into it, not to succumb to everything that's happening, but to retreat into the co-creation of our own life, to take responsibility for our life, to build up this personal strength, and through that, to influence, well, first of all, our own life, and thus, influence our close circle. And then there will be some power, and we might be able to do something about it if each of us chooses not to watch the news, not to get involved, not to give our energy and attention to it. But what can I do right now at my level?

Svetlana [30:30-31:52]:

Look, I assume many viewers will say: "What about the fight for all of this? Well, a girl has spoken up, she raised the wave, she had the courage, what should we do now...?"

What do I think about this? Of course, everyone has their role. But as a human who seems to be involved (we do pay attention to this, we talk about it), but internally, not to reject it, we look at it with some light irony. We understand that it's all so stupid, so illogical, inappropriate, awkward, and against nature that it simply can't exist, like geometry can't live, or chaos can't last long.

So, keeping the option to participate in some discussions, but internally, not considering it from the perspective of these details: who's good, who's bad, who sold oil, who didn't. We clearly understand that this won't have any relation to our lifestyle. But emotionally, falling into panic, hysteria, and fearing the future (the word 'fearing' is key), this is something we should avoid. We simply don't need to do that. We should understand that a scene is being played out in front of us. And we are either participants, and they need participants because if there are no participants, the scene will fall apart...

Interviewer [31:52-32:00]:

The scene will collapse. They live off the energy we send there and become participants.

Svetlana [32:00-32:01]:

We take this all very seriously.

Interviewer [32:01-32:16]:

Very seriously, yes. I always remember the movie "The Tail Wags the Dog" when political games were played, and reality was completely different. Not to be a participant in all of this.

Svetlana [32:16-34:42]:

The trick is what? They understand this too. The people who coordinate this process, they are not simple people, and they understand, just as we do with you from the perspective of the stars in the sky, that something is happening, a metamorphosis, it's very accelerated, and you need to invest your own script, the most similar to what's happening up there, do you understand?

"Well, what if everyone is equal, after all, that's what it's all about," we also want equality, but the word 'equality' means something different to each person. We're constantly told: 'It's all your philosophies, conspiracy theories, but it's really about the economy,' and so on. But they live at the level of theology and religion. Take Trump, for example, who posts on social media; he's Jesus Christ one day, a healer the next, and so on.

I'm just going to share a story now to illustrate how close this topic is to us. Material, immaterial, religion, economy, and politics. Even Peter Thiel, who is a proponent of digitalisation, says: 'Let's accelerate the coming of the messiah, or rather, the transition to a new era.' In his view, everything should be equal: digitalisation, in that spirit. They have their own inspiration, someone named Yarvin."

His idea is that there should be no borders; a very small group of people should receive an education, while the rest should live somewhere in these strange cities (I won't even describe them, as they even imagined these would be cities on water somewhere, and so on), and that there will be one very kind, good king. A charming figure who does not require any doubt that he is good, and we do not need any legal norms. Just live, that's it. So this philosophy is not random either.

We know that recently, Trump seemed to have had a feud with the Pope. It seems like this is just his prank. Seems that way. But actually, here's the story. There are very influential religious communities with incredible financial power, influencing all politics.

Interviewer [34:42-34:44]:

Global, we are, yes...

Svetlana [34:44-38:35]:

Yes-yes-yes. Their level of control is so great that they manipulate all political processes. And one such group, essentially the same cult, is Opus Dei, if we're not punished for saying that. It's a community that, of course, promotes or preaches love for God, but everything as usual.

Around March 16th, just before Trump clashed with the Pope, such a meeting took place. There's someone, his name is Garrett Gore, he wrote a book. He researched this community with such influence, speculation, and blackmail. Once they recruit you, you're naturally... People connected to these various dark cults, now known as "Epstein-like," so to speak. And those who end up in their ranks, they're already tied in, they can't leave this community. And this community sponsored Trump and his entire project. It's the most powerful organization that influences everything.

And here, comrade Gor took and wrote such a book, he researched it for a very long time. There are examples, and there is, for example, the surname of a person who holds the entire judicial system on his shoulders in America. That is all, so to speak, the basest. For some reason (strange or not), this entire Catholic religious organization cleverly fit into the Vatican. The previous Pope encouraged this. Well, what happens there, some twisted things, and God knows what. And everything was fine because they allowed it to themselves. The idea, we understand, what it is.

So, when the new Pope was elected, this Pope asked to meet with this Garret Gor and talk. And it turns out that the Pope doesn't seem to know much, but he is against this idea, against this philosophy, which we would call dark. And since he does not welcome it and even opposes it, and opposes war, as bloodshed (in the metaphysical sense as well as in the real sense), Trump of course cannot accept it, because his sponsors do not support it, it's just opposition.

And so all these processes we see, they seem to us... well, like toys, like Trump is unbalanced. No, because all of them, the motivation is quite religious. And each of them, the same Kushner and others, they also have some connection to this organization. It has penetrated all layers of the elite. And if we talk about the deep state, it's just the most significant part of the deep state. They use all these metaphysical, religious concepts, they live by them, and we're kind of like crazy people who made it up.

So, in fact, this intersection of worlds, our material and such irrational, almost ethereal world, they're very close right now. And organizations like Opus Dei, they don't really need money; they need total power. And by the way, the upcoming events this summer are all about this struggle for total, unilateral power.

Interviewer [38:35-38:39]:

You've already said that. How realistic is this? Like, it doesn't seem possible, but...

Svetlana [38:39-39:53]:

But it won't be like we imagine: everyone fought with swords, and did some king win? No, of course not. The issue... Well, what's the problem anyway when I tell a story? There are different ways of perceiving what I'm saying. Someone immediately wants the events, just as they are, as if they happened right now. But planets, when they move across the sky, the main, large, trans-Saturnian ones, they move very slowly, and they set the trend, but they can't reproduce it instantly. They have to create it first, and then harvest the fruits.

And that's why, in principle, we'll see a struggle for the crown and the king's loss. I think this will play out at many levels: financial, technical, cultural. Moreover, this hot period will likely be accompanied by some very explosive moments, both in a military sense and in a cosmic sense. As for the military, the issue of the Strait of Hormuz, I think it could still be relevant before July 2026. And there, too, it's part of the plot.

Interviewer [39:53-40:00]:

How does this relate to Russia? What role will it play there, and how does it concern us?

Svetlana [40:01-41:52]:

The world is a unified environment. We live in a unified environment, and it's not realistic to think that Russia will be isolated. We've seen different countries go through different things, and Russia is next in line for its transformation. But the word 'transformation' sounds benign, while the realities could be very unpleasant, which we're experiencing now.

And thinking that we'll suddenly face adequacy is naive. We understand that if someone is participating in these processes (and we have many questions), it's probably not according to a scenario outside of those set by the same deep state or something similar. There's a coordinating center, we can see that, and we can see that ideas are being implemented here too, just in different forms, everyone has their own.

But Russia, it seems to me, should have been historically (not it seems to me, the planets are hinting) in such a crisis, to not be silent, to think about how to live on, how to interact in general, how to build the whole social context. We wouldn't be roused without this. And the history that is unfolding, it still seems relatively loyal, because by 2027, it will acquire more, I would say, aggressive and strained traits. And, let's say, a military atmosphere, it won't go away, it might even intensify.

Interviewer [41:52-41:53]:

Within the country or on the borders?

Svetlana [41:53-42:54]:

This, most likely, is not within, it's as if it's with external enemies. But, surprisingly, Russia itself could be the initiator, out of necessity. We understand... Yes, I've been asking myself for a long time: what's this duality in Russia? It's like that. We, on one hand, seem to be moving along the path of patriotic calls, and on the other, we're just completely falling apart. And this contradiction is visible to all of us.

I sometimes think: of course, we can switch to some foreign plans, but it's clear that a very significant eclipse is happening in August, directly related to us. Not just to us, to Russia, to the top of power. And if the eclipse was designed to destroy everything, it won't do it in one day, but it will gradually lead to it. There's one positive aspect.

Interviewer [42:54-42:56]: So, I understand correctly, we need...

Svetlana [42:56-42:56]: To prepare?

Interviewer [42:57-43:00]:

Do we need to prepare? Will there be any change at the top, globally?

Svetlana [43:00-44:27]:

It's not something that will happen overnight; it will just... I initially saw that this was an active topic until February 2026, and then I saw us thinking, "Now, now, now something will get better," and it's getting better... I didn't see any stabilization. Perhaps some might come, but I have a somewhat positive element: nevertheless, there is an attempt to oppose something more (not necessarily noble, I wouldn't say that), but it's respectable, as if something will be put in place.

But against the backdrop of all these processes, against the backdrop of such a terrifying confrontation and the intensification of the economic crisis that will hit everywhere (and, frankly, at some point America might be even more affected, but that will be already in the spring, after 2028, around that time), it's all a very uneven, disproportionate story. And we're always looking for the good guys and the bad guys, who is good, who is bad. So there's no such linear play that we see.

If we understand that energy is moving towards renewal, and if we help by our excitement, our anxiety, our distrust of ourselves and others, and our moans and our hopes that the state will do something for us, that's a big mistake.

Interviewer [44:27-44:29]:

Nothing will be done, of course.

Svetlana [44:29-46:12]:

Yes, yes. And when we meet people from whom we can almost feel the rays of strength, some kind of raw power, this environment is formed behind the scenes. It cannot be formed in a day, in two months, in three months. But may God grant that by the beginning of 2029, we at least approach with some potential. There will be some thaw somewhere in the summer of 2027, roughly, as it will seem to us. There will be searches for paths of reconciliation in such complex, conflict-related international issues. But the rules of life, interaction, are falling apart. We cannot build upon them anymore, neither in domestic nor in foreign policy. Generally, interaction between people.

Since the planets seem to be accelerating this process, after July 20th, I am very worried that it begins to build... Well, the planets say: "Let's build this geometric figure. Look, it's nothing, it holds together, tight." They say: "But we're not keeping up, we already have new inputs coming in." And while this figure tries to align itself, it cannot balance immediately. This balance cannot be achieved yet.

And waiting for such a disruption of previous concepts, including religious ones, to sort itself out, to expect things to get better, I guess that's not likely. But when I look at you, I see happiness in your eyes, which is strange. Am I wrong?

Interviewer [46:13-46:14]:

No, you're not wrong.

Svetlana [46:14-46:15]:

So, I want to ask.

Interviewer [46:15-46:19]:

I create it myself, with my own hands, at my own level...

Svetlana [46:19-46:21]:

It already gives you feedback, the happiness, right?

Interviewer [46:21-46:22]:

Yes, yes, yes.

Svetlana [46:22-48:35]:

And you're not alone, I meet so many like you, they're just passionate people, some loving, some friendly. How much there is to interest us in life, how many interesting things! It's just that it doesn't come out in our frame, it doesn't enter our picture. That's why we suffer.

But if we don't suffer, still, in any case, right now physics is such that we are able to live and create our world, our core, and within this core there are still many others. It doesn't mean we will be unhappy. Just when someone demands a forecast from me, it should sound recognizable even at an everyday level. I express it to be recognizable: yes, an economic and energy crisis, this inability to agree, and so on. Attempts to cope with new boundaries that should, paradoxically, expand, as a good sign, kind of.

But when there is no interaction between people, no happy inner understanding, and no ability to look at nature with joy, it cannot exist. It's simply a category that is absent in the external world. It's built from within and becomes matter. So, no matter what happens in the external world, we are just watching this performance now, seeing how these actions unfold. But we have our own individual lives.

And I want to say that the planets are arranged so cunningly... There are rigid configurations, usually around June 2027 or 2028. But most of the time, the planets stand still. There are configurations that support everything so that nothing falls, nothing disappears, it's not a total catastrophe. But that's not the case. The world is changing to ask us: are you able to work on yourself to prevent you from taking this as a serious game? It's just a game with our emotions.